[arin-discuss] Good Stewardship by example, I'd like to RETURN a /20

Steve Wagner stwagner at syringanetworks.net
Wed Jul 22 16:06:35 EDT 2009


As a note it's not just the /8's. I am in Idaho.  The State of Idaho has a Class B 164.165.0.0 All State government activities sit behind two different firewalls. 

Micron technology 137.201.0.0. Sits behind firewalls

And so forth into perpetuity it seems

In this regard by reclaiming this address space that companies have, particularly when the coropration sits behind NAT firewalls is unjustified.  The ones I listed above use  Private address space behind the firewall i.e. 10.X.X.X etc. So why then would a company entity that does this need to retain their public Class A, B, C etc. There is no technical or administrative justification I can see. 

Nevertheless, there was a comment about pre ARIN and Contract Law. Unfortunatley this may play the larger role over common sense. 

While this is not the ultimate solution, it certainly can stem the tide for many years. 

It would be an interesting study to examine the allocated IP address space by entity and determine how many of these organizations sit behind a NAT firewall, and only use a small portion of their allocation.


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-----Original Message-----
From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of John Osmon
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:43 PM
To: arin-discuss at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Good Stewardship by example, I'd like to RETURN a /20

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 01:32:19PM -0400, Joe Maimon wrote:
> 
> 
> John Osmon wrote:
> 
> >
> >We're aren't going to save the IPv4 world by returning space, but
> >we *will* make it easier on soe folks that are coming to the table
> >(relatively) late.
> 
> Hate to be a downer, but not at the current burn rate.

Actually, I agree -- but don't tell the folks that think getting 
a couple of /8s back from HP, Apple, and the DOD is going to significant
difference in the timing of IPv4 exhaustion.  :-)

I still think that anything you aren't using should go back to the
pool that allows new comers a chance to participate in
commerce/communication.  I don't, however, think that a slew of 
/20s (or /8s) are going to make a big impact.
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