[arin-discuss] Food for thought: IPv4 accountability.

[Chris Gotstein]

Chicken and egg problem.  No one wants to support IPv6 in their app 
cause there aren't any customers, and we can't push out IPv6 to our 
customers cause there isn't any content to access.

That sad part is the that OS's that run under Plesk and Cpanel all FULLY 
SUPPORT IPv6!

-- 
Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
chris at uplogon.com

Tony Valenti wrote:
> We use Plesk and IPV6 isn't supported yet in the software either.  They 
> actually had it in their roadmap to support IPV6 but our sales rep said 
> they scrapped it because nobody really was using IPV6 and it would have 
> just been a waste of time.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Chris Gotstein <chris at uplogon.com 
> <mailto:chris at uplogon.com>> wrote:
> 
>     That is an option, one which we are looking into.  There are still
>     some issues with IPv6 on the client side, ie, handing out
>     addresses/subnets, client side routers/modems/cpe/etc supporting
>     IPv6, etc.
> 
>     On top of that, there are almost no major websites running dual
>     stack. Do a dig or nslookup and see how few AAA records actually
>     come up.
> 
>     In fact, from a web hosting stance, cpanel (which is wen hosting
>     control panel) doesn't support IPv6 yet!  We host over 100 sites
>     that could all be dual stack accessible if cpanel would support IPv6.
> 
>     -- 
>     Chris Gotstein
>     Sr Network Engineer
>     UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
>     500 N Stephenson Ave
>     Iron Mountain, MI 49801
>     Phone: 906-774-4847
>     Fax: 906-774-0335
>     chris at uplogon.com <mailto:chris at uplogon.com>
> 
>     John Brown wrote:
> 
>         There is at least one provider (who runs a damm good network)
>         that is selling IPv4 transit REALLY CHEAP, you just have to
>          also connect via IPv6.
> 
>         We are talking $2 to $3 per Mb/s
> 
>         Of course you can only get this at POP sites they are at.....
> 
>         So there are some that are applying market forces to encourage a
>         more rapid use and deployment of IPv6
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         On 7/21/09 8:35 PM, "Chris Gotstein" <chris at uplogon.com
>         <mailto:chris at uplogon.com>> wrote:
> 
>            I would love to get my IPv6 on, but it doesn't go very far.... :)
> 
>            --
>            Chris Gotstein
>            Sr Network Engineer
>            UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
>            500 N Stephenson Ave
>            Iron Mountain, MI 49801
>            Phone: 906-774-4847
>            Fax: 906-774-0335
>            chris at uplogon.com <mailto:chris at uplogon.com>
> 
>            Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
>            >  Chris Gotstein <chris at uplogon.com
>         <mailto:chris at uplogon.com>> writes:
>            >
>            > > I would agree.  Us small guys don't want to get to a
>         point where the
>            > > big guys are holding available IP address space over our
>         heads for a
>            > > fee.
>            >
>            >  We've been there before, where address space was ridiculously
>            >  difficult or costly to get:
>            >
>            >    
>         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Network_Identification_Code
>            >     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAP_address
>            >
>            >  Funny thing happened...  those areas did not take off, and the
>            >  Internet was built on competing technology.
>            >
>            >  Ever thought that in a post-exhaustion world, the path of
>         least
>            >  resistance might be to just go ahead and get your IPv6 on?
>            >
>            >  -r
>            >
>            >
> 
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