[arin-discuss] Voting Members

[Bob Evans]

Often - Snail Mail here gets tossed or delayed.
Not a good method....Please let's not do it again. :-)
Thanks for Listening
bob evans

>
> On Oct 26, 2008, at 9:49 PM, Dean Anderson wrote:
>
>> Are you talking about the certified mail letters sent to ARIN members
>> recently?  If so, I agree that was a complete waste of money.
>> Certified
>> mail is to legally prove that the letter was received.  Usually
>> certified mail is done to prevent the recipient from claiming
>> ignorance;
>> as might be the case with Board members who might assert they didn't
>> know of the lack of quorum in their elections; or a Board member who
>> might assert they thought some OTHER board member was not validly
>> elected.  And of course, if the Board member refuses to receive
>> certified mail at their proper address then that fact can lead to an
>> adverse inference as well.
>
> Yes, I am talking about the stupid decision to waste money on sending
> a certified letter telling me what I already know.
>
> I think the use of certified mail here was not only a waste, but
> likely something that is totally inappropriate.
>>
>>
>> By contrast, ARIN is required by law (Virginia Nonstock Corporation
>> Act
>> Section 13.1-842) to give notice of an upcoming election, but it
>> doesn't
>> need to send that notice by CERTIFIED MAIL. Further, the notice
>> required
>> by law has to occur "no less than ten nor more than sixty days before
>> the date of the meeting". So ARIN had to send these notices much
>> sooner
>> than 10/14 (the date on my letter) for a member meeting taking place
>> on
>> 10/15-10/17.  Even notice sent 10/14 about a vote ending 10/24 at 12pm
>> is less than ten days, so this letter had no effect whatsoever; it was
>> just marketing literature sent by certified mail. So, a waste of
>> money.
>
> Then post it on the website and in a paper or a simple letter.  Simply
> placing it on the web site makes it "Published".  Once published, its
> as good as gold and considered as a matter of record.
>
> If someone did not know when to vote, that's too bad.  Does ARIN need
> to send out hundreds of invoice emails, invoice letters, certified
> invoice letters to get someone to remember to pay their bill?  I'm
> sure that happens in some cases, but more often than not, you get a
> bill, you pay it.  I see the constant barrage of letters, marketing
> fluff, emails and now this certified letter as a total waste of my
> time and the organizations finances.
>
> You have a WEB SITE.  Use it.
>>
>>
>> Maybe the judgment of management needs to be reviewed; hopefully, this
>> will be the first order of business for a new board of directors to
>> replace the unelected 'board members'. :-)
>>
>
> Reviewed how?  Run for a position?  Make noise? Complain? What?
> Normally in my business life, if I did not like something a supplier,
> customer, or employee was doing, I got rid of them.  Sadly with ARIN,
> I am glued to the oligopoly as it stands.
>
> Using Certified mail for this purpose was careless, wasteful and just
> plain stupid.  Thats about all I can do is say my piece.  It was a bad
> move.
>
> Regards,
> Jeremy Anthony Kinsey
>   e-mail: jer at mia.net
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