[arin-discuss] Anyone play with IPv6 on the RV4000?

[White, Andy]

Actually, there's a couple of parallels going on I can think of... a
(negative) example is the switch (in the US, anyway) from analog to
all-digital TV.  Another (better, IMO) example is the movement of the
cellular phone industry (starting from analog to digital to 2G, now on
to 2.5G, 3G, 4G, etc., etc.)

If the switch requires mass consumer education, the answer is relatively
simple but NOT easy... plan on incorporating IPv6 as a requirement for
the 'next generation' service (wideband, wireless, whatever).  If ISPs
can focus on the business world first, let the marketplace dictate the
move... it seems like IPv4 will become a fairly expensive proposition at
some point.  

My $0.02...
Andy


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Ted Mittelstaedt
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 6:03 PM
To: 'Scott Leibrand'; bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com
Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Anyone play with IPv6 on the RV4000?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net 
> [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Scott Leibrand
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:21 PM
> To: bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com
> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Anyone play with IPv6 on the RV4000?
> 
> 
> bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> > 
> > 		If there is a marketing push for IPv6, we, as a 
> community will have
> > 	failed.  One might as well push CLNP, or NSAP, or 
> DECnetPhaseV. The "market"
> > 	for transport protocols in the commodity sector is almost nil.
> > 
> > 		What sells is access and content. The delivery 
> vehicle is moot as far
> > 	as the commodity sector is concerned. From and 
> -engineering- standpoint, if you
> > 	can persuade the marketing folks that they can continue 
> to sell access and content
> > 	(services) now and into the future - at a lower cost 
> tot he company, then you
> > 	are likely to not lose your job. :)
> 
> If you're talking about a marketing push from ISPs, etc., 
> then you're right.
> 
> But in the original context of equipment vendors, I think it 
> is entirely 
> appropriate for vendors to tout their equipment's features, 
> whether it's 
> IPv6, OSPF, BGP, or 802.11n.  If they don't even *list* IPv6 as a 
> feature, that says something not-so-good...

Remember that Bill said "commodity sector"

Your talking "business sector" I think.

If you want to create a marketing buzz about IPv6 then have Janet
Jackson paint "IPv6" on her boobs and then pull off her bra at
the next Super Bowl halftime show.  That will give you more
market awareness of what IPv6 is among the "commodity sector"
than all of the education that we can do in our corner of the
woods here.

It just how the commodity market works.  Individually they
may be intelligent, together they are stupid as rocks.

Ted


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