[arin-discuss] Importance of Corporate Governance

[Christopher Zolla]

I have been reading this thread for some time now, and while I have only
been an ARIN member for a few years, this one of the few threads that
didn't involve 40 emails of ARIN members trying to figure out how to get
off the distribution list so it has grabbed my attention.

Let me begin by saying I really have no knowledge of what the motivation
is behind these allegations, but I would like to believe at this point
it is based on concern for the organization.  From what I have been
reading, Dean has raised some valid questions regarding voting and the
spending of ARIN dollars.  I have no idea of the validity of the
statements, but I will continue to follow the progress as I am
interested in the outcome.

That being said, from a third party point of view, Dean has maintained a
positive and professional response to every email I have read (I haven't
read them all - but close) questioning his motives and his approach to
this situation.  In my mind, emails like this don't discredit anything
he is asking.  In fact, I think it has the opposite effect in that the
more that get sent, the more I really want an official answer to these
allegations from ARIN.  It would seem to me if Dean was spaming us all
with a "bunch of lies", this issue would already have been addressed
with the truth and the discussion would be over.  I guess the question I
have is, considering the time span this has taken place in, why hasn't
there been an official response to any of these allegations?  The lack
of response makes it _seem_ like there is something to hide.  Are the
allegations not being taken seriously?  If member awareness is what it
will take to get an answer, I think that is starting to happen.  Or at
least it is from my perspective.  

In summary, for all I know Dean _may_ be misguided and have his own
agenda, but if the things he is saying are false, then present an
official response and discredit him.  This email is not directed at
anyone in particular.  I wanted to share my fairly disconnected view on
the situation and what my perception was as a member who has not been
actively involved in the workings of ARIN.

Christopher Zolla

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:28 AM
To: arin-discuss at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Importance of Corporate Governance

> I don't want to encourage the small noisy group who advocate 
> their views by threatening and trying to suppress or silence 
> contrary views,

So far, the leading member of that group is YOU!
Most of us believe that ARIN is basically in good order, not being run
by a secret NANOG cabal, and in no need of urgent action. You hold a
contrary view to most of us and have been raising a lot of ruckus
bordering on threats, trying to suppress our view and make your view
dominate the airtime.

> Second, I note many thoughtful comments have supported the 
> investigations. Members want to know the answers to the 
> reasonable questions of how ARIN is spending money.

I too support an investigation. I too want to know how ARIN is spending
its money. But I have seen nothing which suggests that this
investigation and report should not be done using ARIN's
business-as-usual process, i.e. the staff and directors will sort out
what to do, and provide a report to us at the next members meeting. No
need for extraordinary actions.

And most especially, no need for temper tantrums and demanding answers
be given, RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW!

Apologies to Fat Boy Slim.

> By contrast, the persons who want to stop the investigation 

Asking you to please shut up on the list is not the same thing as asking
to stop the investigation. Rational people are beginning to wonder why
the latest demand for John Curran to disclose the name of an ARIN
lawyer, could not have taken place entirely in private email messages.
Or a simple phone call.

> also advocate disregarding any current or past wrongdoing, 
> disregarding facts reflecting negatively on Board Members' 
> character, disregarding the ARIN bylaws, and disregarding bad 
> faith, false statements, and conflict of interest of Board 
> Members.  They advocate _against_ ARIN reporting the facts 
> of, for example, what ARIN has spent on NANOG.  They advocate 
> _against_ having quorum requirements for the election of 
> Board Members.  
> They advocate _against_ discussion of corporate governance. 
> Their position is contrary to principles of good corporate governance.

Lies, all lies. This tactic didn't do anything to help Marxist-Leninists
to dominate the world and it won't do anything to help you win
supporters. 

Give it a rest, please. If you know of any ARIN wrongdoing, take it to
the courts. Quit trying to make us all into legal experts because we
don't want to be lawyers.

--Michael Dillon
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