[arin-discuss] Legacy RSA

[stephen.r.middleton at verizon.com]

To quote Ted Mittelstaedt:

"I don't call it irresponsible for ARIN to show up at this trade show,
but I would call it irresponsible for them to show up at this show more 
than
once, now that they have seen that there isn't anything there for them.
I get a lot of advertising for trade shows and it's usually a bald faced
pack of lies, until you actually go there and visit you don't really know 
squat about it."

That assumes ARIN has found that there isn't anything at this particular 
trade show for them.  I will agree that many such events will need to be 
visited by ARIN staff to evaluate whether or not there is an opportunity 
for community outreach. 

In either case, I feel comfortable in leaving that judgement up to ARIN 
staff. 

Stephen Middleton





"Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm at ipinc.net> 
Sent by: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net
10/31/2007 01:34 PM

To
"Dean Anderson" <dean at av8.net>
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arin-discuss at arin.net
Subject
Re: [arin-discuss] Legacy RSA








>-----Original Message-----
>From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net
>[mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Dean Anderson
>Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:40 AM
>Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
>Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Legacy RSA
>
>
>I attended VON in Boston today, and quite unexpectedly ran into the ARIN
>booth.  I met Einar Bohlin and Jon Worley.  I have several unfavorable

>This was just a junket; part of that $400,000 or so 46% increase in the
>travel budget that I cited a couple weeks ago. Done under the euphemism
>of "outreach".  These trade shows are indeed a lot of fun. I wish I had
>an extra $400,000 to spend attending trade shows, staying in nice
>hotels, flying around. Parties are always great when you have no sales
>quotas to meet.  But these trade shows are a total, complete waste of
>ARIN resources.  A non-profit company is expected to be a steward for
>the benefit of the public interest and its defined purpose. The public
>interest is not served here, and it is hard to find anything that is
>served in the charter of ARIN.
>
>But otherwise, I enjoyed the chance to talk to Einar and Jon, especially
>after I felt I couldn't attend Albuquerque

I felt I couldn't attend the NM meeting either because it was "just a
junket"
so I observed over the Web - and after watching the 3 days of it, it 
merely
confirmed my initial feelings about it.  The web feed was definitely
a far better use of my time!

These trade shows are a form of advertising.  And the important thing
to keep in mind about advertising is that over 50% of your advertising
dollars are going to be wasted no matter how much advance preparation
you do.

I don't call it irresponsible for ARIN to show up at this trade show,
but I would call it irresponsible for them to show up at this show more 
than
once, now that they have seen that there isn't anything there for them.
I get a lot of advertising for trade shows and it's usually a bald faced
pack of lies, until you actually go there
and visit you don't really know squat about it.

TEd

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