[arin-discuss] [ppml] Counsel statement on Legacy assignments?

[Dean Anderson]

On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, John Curran wrote:

> At 11:15 AM -0400 10/8/07, Dean Anderson wrote:
> >Actually, at the meeting he said that the law permitted one to deny free
> >services to those _without_an_agreement_. This is a general principle
> >true for any business.  However, Legacy's _do_ have an agreement with
> >the government. So this general principle is not true with respect to
> >ARIN Legacy's.
> >
> >If fact, no statement was made specifically about Legacy's _with_ an
> >agreement during the meeting.  I know of no Legacy holders that do not
> >have an agreement.  Do you know of any such holders without agreements?
> 
> The vast majority of legacy holders do not have an agreement with
> ARIN (which is the provider of these services and the context of his
> statement).

True, none of the Legacy holders have an agreement with __ARIN__; If
they did, that fact would make them (rather obviously) non-Legacy
holders.  Legacy's have an agreement with the Government, via SRI or
Network Solutions.

ARIN has an obligation to honor those government agreements.  ARIN has
honored those agreements and ARIN's obligations under those agreements
for more than 10 years.

None of the registrations are property of ARIN. ARIN doesn't have
'title' to the IP blocks either.  The blocks and the registration
records belong to the government, and ARIN will have to transfer the
registrations to the successor of ARIN as its final obligation.

> > > Whether that was a clear, definitive, or formal statement for your
> >> purposes I do not know, as it pertains specifically to the obligation
> >> of providing of "free" registry services, and it was made before the
> >> participants of our public policy meeting.
> >
> >You said that you had asked Counsel to prepare a formal statement. Where
> >is that statement?  Whenever I have made request for _formal_ opinion
> >from Counsel, I get a written legal opinion with lots of citations.
> 
> I stand corrected, as I noted earlier.  I made a request to counsel to
> address the matter at the policy meeting meeting panel on legacy
> address space.

Ok. Fair enough. Can you ask the Counsel the prepare a formal statement
on ARIN's obligations to the Legacy Holder's through the government
agreements with the Legacy Holders?

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