[arin-discuss] Legacy RSA

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

Terri,

  ARIN is rather constrained from quite a number of technical arenas.  It's
not in it's
charter to interfere with routing on the backbone which is where most of the
pure
tech is.  The biggest thing that ARIN does - assignment of IP addresses - is
not
as much of a technical function as it is a business/administrative/political
function that is
being driven by the technologists on NANOG and in IETF and what they want on
the Internet.

  With that said, one of the best ways to get rid of a stinky thread on a
mailing
list is to replace it with a more interesting one.  You said your new to the
list, are
you new to ARIN?  Are there any questions you have as to it's operation that
might be good topics for discussion here?

Ted

 -----Original Message-----
From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On
Behalf Of Terri Kelley
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:36 PM
To: ARIN-discuss at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Legacy RSA


  I second what Steve has said here.


  I am also new to the list and I am a tech guy not a politician and have no
desire
  to be one. This one discussion if you will has come close to creating a
arin spam
  folder or just removing myself.


  There is probably a need for this type of thing but like Steve, I think a
"politics"
  list would be very appropriate. I would still like to see the arin info
that is sent
  out here but if it involves politics then anyone wanting to respond should
go to
  the politics discussion to debate it out. So both groups would be served
and
  neither would be left out of the loop.


  Terri Kelley
  Farm to Market Broadband
  Network Engineer




  On Nov 9, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote:


    I can understand why so many people want to leave the list. I am a
    newcomer, attempting to become somewhat of a good 'net citizen in
    regards to appropriate use of my resources, and to generally gain
    knowledge so I can be a respectable piece of the Internet's next
generation.


    I'm thankful that I'm an operator and not a politician. The only time
    I've ever known anyone to have so much time to dig up dirt on others is
    in politics. What a waste of production time.


    As it has already been pointed out, Section 9.2 of the Member Mailing
    List AUP is here:


    http://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#nine2


    If anything, for sanity sakes, at least propose a solution to what you
    think is wrong instead of a blanket 'get rid of the board and the AC'
    with a boat load of crap to go with it.


    Whether someone is a criminal, has been accused of being a criminal or
    was a criminal, if they can adequately suit the needs of the people they
    are serving, why judge them on that. Cast the first stone.


    It is claimed that ARIN is wasting money because there is no benefit to
    the community they serve (WRT spending on travel for trade shows).
    However, there has been no documentation to the contrary that states
    their spending on attendance to these trade shows has had a negative
    impact either.


    My .02. I don't care anymore. I thought that monitoring these lists
    would actually provide some benefit to myself, the organization that I
    work for and most importantly the continuance of decent policy into the
    future.


    On a side, but related note, if IP related policy is ever proposed that
    does not involve those who have at least some operational/engineering
    relevance, than I oppose of it right off the hop.


    I propose a policy that moves political discussion and accusations that
    have nothing to do with the basic fundamentals ARIN represents to
    something like:


    arin-politics at arin.net


    Steve






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