[arin-discuss] Method for Unsubscribing to the ARIN-Discuss maillist

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

Method for Unsubscribing to the ARIN-Discuss mail listBill and All,

The majority of these remove requests are coming from anti-spam software.
There isn't anyone reading your responses.

There's software out there that in an attempt to reduce spam the user can
run and it will just e-mail out unsubscribe requests to the sender for every
mail message they get that isn't on an approved list.  The idea is that if
the spam is forged criminal spam the backscatter will go to /dev/null and
if it's a commercial advertising list that the advert list managers will
eventually
remove them if they get enough remove replies.

The authors of such software know that these are a great source of annoyance
to listserves.  But, they don't give a rat's ass about that.  Their theory
is that
any "legitimate" e-mail listserv is an opt-in with confirmation and thus it
will not be possible for one of their software customers to be subscribed
to a "legitimate" list serv.

The very best thing you can do with these unprintable people is to forward
their so-called unsubscribe requests to the member services help desk at
ARIN with a notation that we got another moron that is trying to unsubscribe
without reading the instructions, and to please do it manually for them.

Ted
  -----Original Message-----
  From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net
[mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Bill Darte
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:22 PM
  To: Brad Pittenger; arin-discuss at arin.net
  Cc: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net
  Subject: [arin-discuss] Method for Unsubscribing to the ARIN-Discuss
maillist


  Please review the mechanism for removing oneself from the ARIN mail lists
that you no longer wish to receive mail from.

  I ask you to reconsider your interest in being removed.  Please give this
list another chance.

  But, if later (or now if you must) want to be removed from the list, you
must follow the instructions at:

  http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/index.html

  Bill Darte
  ARIN Advisory Council


  -----Original Message-----
  From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net on behalf of Brad Pittenger
  Sent: Fri 11/9/2007 2:17 PM
  To: arin-discuss at arin.net
  Cc: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net
  Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] REMOVE

  Please remove.

  brad.pittenger at xiolink.com<mailto:brad.pittenger at xiolink.com>
  public at xiolink.com<mailto:public at xiolink.com>


  From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]
On Behalf Of Julio Reyes
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:55 PM
  To: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net; Steve Bertrand; Paul Vixie
  Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
  Subject: [arin-discuss] REMOVE


  Remove please

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Steve Bertrand" <steve at ibctech.ca>
  To: "Paul Vixie" <paul at vix.com>
  Cc: <arin-discuss at arin.net>
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 10:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Restricting postings to one per day and three
  per week


  >> i still don't like it.  you'd essentially say that
  >> anyone who wanted to be able to freely address
  >> comments to arin's membership, also had to address
  >> those comments to the public.  ppml is a public
  >> forum.  i'm talking about an open membership forum,
  >> which is what arin-discuss@ currently is.
  >
  > Either that, or discussions would get extremely fragmented.
  >
  > If a member felt they *needed* to reply a message and were over their
  > quota, they would likely do a reply-all and remove the -discuss list.
  >
  > This would most likely cause even more confusion and frustration than
  > what is present now as nobody would be able to follow an entire thread
  > in it's entirety.
  >
  > I wouldn't even go as far as to say moderation would be better, as then
  > you would have a governing body who at it's sole discretion could decide
  > whether a member's comment was appropriate or not.
  >
  > It's up to the members to decide whether another member's opinion is
  > valid and appropriate. Everyone is entitled to voice their opinion, and
  > limiting and/or blocking someones opinion would (IMHO) detract from the
  > purpose of this list entirely.
  >
  > Steve
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