[arin-discuss] Legacy RSA

[Garth Brown]

Dean,

Your opinions are clearly well defined and fixed in their positions. I don't happen to agree with many of them (though I've also experienced unjustified interference in the early-days of the anti-spam "movement" from some of the parties you reference).

I might constructively suggest that you expend your efforts in the collection of a petition with the required number of signatories (if indeed there are enough to support it) and pursue your grievances within the system that's in place. Perhaps you can invite like minded people to a separate list where you can make your plans.

>From my perspective, the horse is dead. Please stop beating it - at least in my inbox. If you have support, execute something constructive.

Garth Brown

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net
> [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Dean Anderson
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 8:23 AM
> To: Howard, W. Lee
> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Legacy RSA
>
>
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Howard, W. Lee wrote:
> > >  That is why it's important to have regular audits of
> these groups.
> > > I would challenge you to investigate this, obtain and read the
> > > auditors report and see what they had to say.
> >
> > The auditor's report is available at
> > http://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/annual_rprt.html
>
> Enron, Worldcom, etc all had audits, too.  The classification and
> justification of expenses is disputed here.  The audit _after_ these
> disputes are resolved is the one that will be important.
>
> An auditor can only look at the purported justification written on the
> paperwork given for the expense and decide whether the purported
> justification would be a valid expense in the category listed. They
> cannot easilly detect if the justification is actually legitimate and
> true.  An auditor can't tell if going to VON is a legitimate
> educational
> outreach effort or a junket. They can't tell if transferring $50k to
> Nanog is a legitimate educational outreach expense, or an improper
> transfer to Board Member special interests. Auditors don't investigate
> the interests of the Board Members.
>
> So, an audit doesn't mean that the purported justifications and
> classifications are _actually_ valid. An audit just means that, on the
> face of it, the justifications seemed valid.
>
>                 --Dean
>
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