[arin-discuss] Privacy of Reassignment Information
John Stadter
john.stadter at comspanusa.net
Fri Apr 14 20:02:38 EDT 2006
Get me off this list!
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From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]
On Behalf Of Virgilio_Castillo at codetel.com.do
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 5:28 PM
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Cc: ARIN-discuss at arin.net; peter at webperception.com;
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Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Privacy of Reassignment Information
Please take me out of this list.
"Hostmaster" <hostmaster at ccom.net>
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04/10/2006 04:12 PM
To: <peter at webperception.com>, "'william(at)elan.net'"
<william at elan.net>
cc: ARIN-discuss at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Privacy of Reassignment
Information
I would like to know how to get off this list also
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On Behalf Of PETER SKEELS
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Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Privacy of Reassignment Information
How do I get off this list???
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william(at)elan.net wrote:
>You're not required to provide your email address or phone for ARIN
>reassignment records (yes, there are marketeers that will send postal
>mail advertisement, but that seems far from being serious issue).
>
>Phone and email are only required for contact information and that
>is optional and you can always choose to use your ISP's contact for
>reassignment (in fact that is how its done for simple reassignment).
>
>On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Gary Wall wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hi Tom,
>>
>>I agree that there is a duty to be transparent. But open records are
>>abused by spammers and enforcement against them is like trying to get
>>the toothpaste back in the tube. Maybe having a system that requires a
>>non-machine readable challenge-response like Godaddy or such might be
>>the solution for all parties that need to query this information. There
>>might be a backdoor for qualified parties on a need-to-know basis.
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>
>>Gary
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net
>>[mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Tom Vest
>>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:28 PM
>>To: ppml at arin.net
>>Cc: ARIN-discuss at arin.net; Mark Erskine
>>Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Privacy of Reassignment Information
>>
>>If the information can be legitimately obscured, then it is only a
>>matter of time before the anonymity will be abused by unscrupulous
>>people.
>>
>>I think it would be prudent to take a letter from other "governance"
>>discussions, and strongly resist the temptation to combat "higher
>>level" abuses by imposing the enforcement burden on "lower level"
>>operations/administrative structures. ARIN and the RIRs are vested
>>with responsibility for maintaining records for number resources held
>>in public trust. If the records are abused, the specific abuses and
>>abusers should be targeted -- even if this is more difficult --
>>rather than taking the easy route of attacking the underlying systems.
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>On Apr 10, 2006, at 12:37 PM, G.Hiscott wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>if the information is available, then it is only a matter of time
>>>before it
>>>will be abused for marketing purposes by unscrupolous sales people.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>...... Original Message .......
>>>On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:23:34 -0400 "Mark Erskine"
>>><MErskine at HostDepot.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'll second that!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Mark Erskine
>>>>Host Depot, Inc.
>>>>http://www.HostDepot.com
>>>>Phone: 954.340.3527
>>>>Fax: 954.340.3539
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net
>>>>[mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Barry Dykes
>>>>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 12:20 PM
>>>>Cc: ARIN-discuss at arin.net; ppml at arin.net
>>>>Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Privacy of Reassignment Information
>>>>
>>>>I have to say that I do not agree with making everything public.
>>>>Spam
>>>>and phishing are one thing, but I pay a lot of money to get my
>>>>customers
>>>>and more to keep them. I have no intention of posting that for any
>>>>competitor to browse.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Barry A. Dykes
>>>>VP Engineering/Operations
>>>>ViaWest Internet Services
>>>>bdykes at viawest.net
>>>>303-407-4708
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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