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arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Virgilio_Castillo@codetel.com.do<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 10, 2006 5:28
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Hostmaster<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> ARIN-discuss@arin.net;
peter@webperception.com; arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [arin-discuss]
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To: <peter@webperception.com>,
"'william(at)elan.net'" <william@elan.net></span></font> <br>
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font-family:"Courier New"'>I would like to know how to get off this list also<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net]<br>
On Behalf Of PETER SKEELS<br>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 2:10 PM<br>
To: william(at)elan.net<br>
Cc: ARIN-discuss@arin.net<br>
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Privacy of Reassignment Information<br>
<br>
How do I get off this list???<br>
<br>
______________________<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
Peter Skeels<br>
WebPerception, LLC<br>
"Your total resource for internet access and services."<br>
<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">1701 Novato Blvd., Suite 103</st1:Street>,
<st1:City w:st="on">Novato</st1:City></st1:address>, CA. 94947<br>
voice 415.892.7711 ext. 13<br>
voice 800.569.8062 ext. 13<br>
fax 415.898.3974<br>
peter@webperception.com<br>
http://www.webperception.com<br>
<br>
Our best advertising has always been referrals from customers so please<br>
remember to mention WebPerception to your friends, colleagues, and<br>
associates.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
william(at)elan.net wrote:<br>
<br>
>You're not required to provide your email address or phone for ARIN <br>
>reassignment records (yes, there are marketeers that will send postal<br>
>mail advertisement, but that seems far from being serious issue).<br>
><br>
>Phone and email are only required for contact information and that<br>
>is optional and you can always choose to use your ISP's contact for <br>
>reassignment (in fact that is how its done for simple reassignment).<br>
><br>
>On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Gary Wall wrote:<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
>>Hi Tom,<br>
>><br>
>>I agree that there is a duty to be transparent. But open records are<br>
>>abused by spammers and enforcement against them is like trying to get<br>
>>the toothpaste back in the tube. Maybe having a system that
requires a<br>
>>non-machine readable challenge-response like Godaddy or such might be<br>
>>the solution for all parties that need to query this information. There<br>
>>might be a backdoor for qualified parties on a need-to-know basis.<br>
>><br>
>>Best Regards,<br>
>><br>
>><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Gary</st1:place></st1:City><br>
>><br>
>>-----Original Message-----<br>
>>From: arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net<br>
>>[mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net] On Behalf Of Tom Vest<br>
>>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:28 PM<br>
>>To: ppml@arin.net<br>
>>Cc: ARIN-discuss@arin.net; Mark Erskine<br>
>>Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Privacy of Reassignment Information<br>
>><br>
>>If the information can be legitimately obscured, then it is only a<br>
>>matter of time before the anonymity will be abused by unscrupulous<br>
>>people.<br>
>><br>
>>I think it would be prudent to take a letter from other
"governance"<br>
>>discussions, and strongly resist the temptation to combat "higher<br>
>>level" abuses by imposing the enforcement burden on "lower
level"<br>
>>operations/administrative structures. ARIN and the RIRs are vested<br>
>>with responsibility for maintaining records for number resources held<br>
>>in public trust. If the records are abused, the specific abuses and<br>
>>abusers should be targeted -- even if this is more difficult --<br>
>>rather than taking the easy route of attacking the underlying systems.<br>
>><br>
>>Tom<br>
>><br>
>>On Apr 10, 2006, at 12:37 PM, G.Hiscott wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>>>if the information is available, then it is only a matter of time<br>
>>>before it<br>
>>>will be abused for marketing purposes by unscrupolous sales people.<br>
>>></span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>>>><br>
>>>___<br>
>>>www.keyconnect.com<br>
>>><br>
>>>...... Original Message .......<br>
>>>On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:23:34 -0400 "Mark Erskine"<br>
>>><MErskine@HostDepot.com><br>
>>>wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>><br>
>>>>I'll second that!<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>Thanks,<br>
>>>>Mark Erskine<br>
>>>>Host Depot, Inc.<br>
>>>>http://www.HostDepot.com<br>
>>>>Phone: 954.340.3527<br>
>>>>Fax: 954.340.3539<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>-----Original Message-----<br>
>>>>From: arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net<br>
>>>>[mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net] On Behalf Of Barry Dykes<br>
>>>>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 12:20 PM<br>
>>>>Cc: ARIN-discuss@arin.net; ppml@arin.net<br>
>>>>Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Privacy of Reassignment Information<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>I have to say that I do not agree with making everything
public.<br>
>>>>Spam<br>
>>>>and phishing are one thing, but I pay a lot of money to get my<br>
>>>>customers<br>
>>>>and more to keep them. I have no intention of posting
that for any<br>
>>>>competitor to browse.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>Thanks,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>Barry A. Dykes<br>
>>>>VP Engineering/Operations<br>
>>>>ViaWest Internet Services<br>
>>>>bdykes@viawest.net<br>
>>>>303-407-4708<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>_______________________________________________<br>
>>>>ARIN-discuss mailing list<br>
>>>>ARIN-discuss@arin.net<br>
>>>>http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss<br>
>>>>_______________________________________________<br>
>>>>ARIN-discuss mailing list<br>
>>>>ARIN-discuss@arin.net<br>
>>>>http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <br>
>>>><br>
>>>_______________________________________________<br>
>>>ARIN-discuss mailing list<br>
>>>ARIN-discuss@arin.net<br>
>>>http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss<br>
>>> <br>
>>><br>
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