guideline for name-based web hosting justification

[brianj]

---- Original Message ----
From: mbailey at journey.net
To: arin-discuss at arin.net, 
Subject: RE: guideline for name-based web hosting justification
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:32:07 -0400

>For those of us that do accounting via IP how do you expect us to us 
>Name
>Based Virtuals? Until there is a method for accounting all traffic 
>to a
>domain name without using IP I see this as totally unreasonable. We 
>base all
>of our security filters and traffic filters on a customers IP 
>assigned to
>them. We also have hardware that can not support name based virtuals 
>and
>thus has a NIC card for each site? Explain IN DETAIL the method used 
>to
>account for these in our requests.

If you currnetly use the web server's log files to account for
traffic (which I'm sure is the standard method of throughput
accounting for web-sites), you should easily be able to parse usage
based on named sites. It shouldn't be significantly more difficult
than parsing the logs for IP sites.

>
>As example if I have 200,000 websites you want me to fit all of this 
>into a
>/32 or even a /24 that is TOTALLY unreasonable. DETAILS please on 
>how you
>are going to justify this?

You will always need at least a single IP address for each server, so
this is not an issue, and will not be an issue with ARIN.

>
>Also why not go through the aollocations and start retreiving 
>numbers back
>from Companies and schools that have more than they need? All you 
>are doing
>is slowing down the Internet's growth. Make web hosting companies 
>get to the
>high %90 utils before allow more allocation.
>
>I would like some input on this as I am sure the rest of the planet 
>would as
>well.
>
>Matthew S. Bailey
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-arin-discuss at arin.net 
>[mailto:owner-arin-discuss at arin.net]On
>Behalf Of Hyunseog Ryu
>Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 12:29 PM
>To: hostnamster at arin.net
>Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
>Subject: guideline for name-based web hosting justification
>
>
>Dear Sir/Madam
>
>Good morning!
>I read new ARIN's policy regarding to web hosting.
>http://www.arin.net/announcements/policy_changes.html
>[SNIP]
>
>