Re: [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] ACSP Consultation 2021.5: Consultation on ARIN’s Membership Structure

Fri Oct 29 00:11:09 EDT 2021

Right, so if you get down to less than 2,000 general members, a petition requires 100 of them to sign.

If you get down to 99 general members and everyone else has become a service member, petitions become impossible.

Am I missing something?

Shouldn’t at least the petition signature process be open to all members and not just general members?

Owen

> On Oct 28, 2021, at 14:38 , John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> 
> Mike -
> 
> To be clear, the most recent petition process had a threshold of 124 members (based on 2% of the 6183 eligible general members at election cutoff) – the proposed bylaw language would have had no effect since it simply sets a minimum of 100 for such a process. 
> 
> The reason for inclusion of this language is because we do not know what the long-term general member count will be and felt that a modest floor was a reasonable precaution.   While we’re making it possible for more than 7000 end-user organizations to now also become general members and participate in the election, we may see some attrition of existing general members population (i.e. those who don’t tend to vote in ARIN’s elections.)
> 
> Due to this uncertainty of the long-term general member count, it appeared prudent to provide a minimum for this petition requirement even if never needed. 
> 
> I hope this helps clarify the reasoning behind the proposed text – there was no intent to “make petitions harder” and it would be non-operative language if participation levels continue at present levels.
> 
> Thanks,
> /John
> 
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
> 
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2021, at 5:05 PM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com <mailto:mike at iptrading.com>> wrote:
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>> I oppose the language requiring a minimum of 100 votes for a successful petition and I suggest the number of votes required for a successful petition be lowered significantly, given the paltry number of participants on the ARIN lists and the abbreviated timeframe for acquiring signatures. We are in a time where the NomCom is being questioned severely, and when not one, but two successful petitions have just completed. That’s two black eyes for the NomCom, why in the world would we be making petitions harder at this time?
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>> Regards,
>> Mike
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>> Subject: [arin-announce] ACSP Consultation 2021.5: Consultation on ARIN’s Membership Structure
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>> The purpose of this consultation is to provide our customers ARIN’s plan for membership going forward and to seek feedback on planned changes to ARIN’s membership structure for 2022.
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>> With the change to a single fee schedule in 2022 (fee harmonization) for end user and ISP organizations, ARIN wishes to open up participation in ARIN governance to end user organizations that were previously unable to vote in ARIN elections. When the end user organizations are transitioned to the Registration Services Plan, they will be made Service Members of ARIN. This category is an addition to the existing membership categories. The addition of a new membership category requires a modification to the Bylaws, linked below.
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>> The distinguishing characteristic between Service and General Member categories is related to the commitment to vote in ARIN’s elections. Any Service Member organization may apply to become a General Member by submitting a request and meeting the General Member criteria.
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>> General members (whether existing or new ones who were previously end user organizations and opted to become General Members) must participate in ARIN Elections to maintain their status. Following the 2023 ARIN annual election and each election thereafter, General Members that did not cast a ballot in any of the previous three ARIN elections will become Service Members and will not be eligible to apply for General Member status until after the coming year.
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>> Please view the proposed related Bylaws changes at: https://arin.net/participate/oversight/membership/bylaws_redline_102821.pdf  <https://arin.net/participate/oversight/membership/bylaws_redline_102821.pdf>
>> You may also review a more detailed description of the proposed 2022 Membership categories and related FAQ at: https://arin.net/participate/oversight/membership/index2022/ <https://arin.net/participate/oversight/membership/index2022/>
>> This consultation will remain open for 15 days, after which a summary will be provided to the Board of Trustees for their consideration. This proposed change to ARIN’s bylaws may be implemented independently or in addition to any other bylaw changes approved by the Board (including consultation if necessary) in accordance with the bylaws.
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>> Discussion on arin-consult at arin.net <mailto:arin-consult at arin.net> will close on 12 November 2021.
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>> Regards,
>>  
>> John Curran
>> President and CEO
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
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