[ARIN-consult] Consultation on ARIN Fees

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Mon Apr 12 12:27:51 EDT 2021

On 12 Apr 2021, at 12:06 PM, Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net> wrote:
> On 4/12/2021 8:06 AM, John Curran wrote:
>> On 11 Apr 2021, at 9:14 PM, Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net> wrote:
>>> On 4/9/21 1:38 PM, ARIN wrote:
>>>>     * Implementing a $100 fee for OrgCreate and OrgRecovery transactions
>>> Does the orgcreate fee apply when an org wishes to create an orgrecord for the purposes of receiving a detailed reassignment from a existing ARIN member?
>> Andrew -
>> 	Yes, we are proposing the Organization create  fee in order to cover the administration in setting up a new organization with ARIN – this includes the vetting of the organizational record and points-of-contact.
>> Thanks,
>> /John
> While I understand the desire to recover costs associated with formally setting up a new org in the database.  I would suggest that we don't want create a significant financial disincentive for members to not appropriately create detailed reassignments for organizations where they should be created.
> I suggest that an existing member could be permitted to 'sponsor' orgcreation for a number of new orgs per 'year'.  e.g. an X-Large member could sponsor the orgcreation of 10 new orgs for the purpose of detailed reassignments per year.
> I realize this is perhaps more complicated than just a fee per org creation.

Andrew - 
	I share your concern, but note that organizations that receive detailed reassignments have full use of ARIN services and that means there is inevitably more process involved - i.e. vetting the organization & PoCs, and entry into an RSA.  A small fee helps provide sufficient consideration for the agreement, so we’ll need to ponder this some.


John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

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