[ARIN-consult] [E] Re: Consultation on Orphaned Organization (Org) and Point of Contact (POC) Records

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Mon Aug 6 10:37:54 EDT 2018



> On Aug 6, 2018, at 06:11, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 5 Aug 2018, at 3:34 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>> ...
>> 2.    It would be reasonable to make an effort to contact said POC, giving said POC 60 days notice that
>>    their record is orphaned and pending deletion.
>> 
>> 3.    After 60 days elapses if ARIN does not receive some form of response indicating that there is a
>>    reason to maintain said orphaned POC, it should be safe to remove it, relegating it to who’s
>>    for all eternity.
> 
> Owen - 
> 
> “If ARIN does not receive some form of response” is rather vague…  
> 
> Can we both clarify and streamline the processing to effect that ARIN makes a reasonable effort to contact the POC, and then 60 days later, if the POC still meets orphaned criteria AND has not been updated in the any manner, then it is safe to archive and remove?

That’s fine with me. My intent wasn’t to design the details of the process, but to leave that open to staff to fill in such that it fits into ARIN’s current business practices and processes. 

What you describe would definitely be an acceptable implementation of the intent I was trying to convey. 

> This provides that a party notified can associate the record with some resources or simply update it the record and it will remain in the database.

It might be nice if it was sufficient to simply validate the POC ala current POC validation procedure rather than requiring some form of change, but if there’s some reason not to permit that, I’m not strongly tied to the idea. 

Owen





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