[ARIN-consult] Consultation on Proposed 2018 Fee Schedule Changes

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Mon Apr 9 14:36:00 EDT 2018



> On Apr 9, 2018, at 11:30 , Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
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>> On Apr 9, 2018, at 11:15 , John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
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>> On 9 Apr 2018, at 1:38 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
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>>> This so-called “modest” $150/year increase in my fees is neither desired, nor appreciated and frankly, no, I’m not seeing
>>> a significant expansion in recent years of the ARIN services I use or of the number of interactions I carry out with ARIN
>>> annually in relation to my resources (which, if you don’t count paying my invoices) is approximately zero.
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>> Owen - 
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>> Indeed – those who have had their resources for some time are likely to have less interactions with ARIN, but we still get requests for changes due to changing circumstances, and the average party coming to us is not quite as familiar with ARIN and its processes as you are…
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> Correct me if I am wrong, but the majority of these “enhanced” services have been generated not at the best of (nor primarily used by) end-users, but more by subscriber members?

That should read “…not at the behest…”

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> If that’s the case, then I suggest you seek to bill them for the increased costs.
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> If you believe that end-users are using a disproportionately high fraction of these enhanced services that are running up the budget, then I’d like to see what that is based on.
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>>> I realize that since end-users don’t have voting rights unless they subscribe to an additional $500/year poll tax, we are easy targets here, but I do not support the proposed increase being borne entirely by the end-user with no impact on ISPs.
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>> While end-users do not have voting rights, our community consultation processes are open to all (just as our policy development processes), so end-users have significant input into ARIN direction regardless – also note that organizations can consolidation their resources under a single agreement, pay as the appropriate size registration services plan (which may be less in some cases the per-object maintainance fees, and become a voting ARIN member in the process.) 
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> Well… If this increase goes through, then in a few years, you’ll have narrowed my gap to $50, but you won’t let me consolidate under the existing agreement I prefer, instead wanting to force me into one of the more current agreements.
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> Forgive me after already being shafted once by signing an ARIN agreement for being a bit gun-shy on signing a new “improved” ARIN agreement.
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> Hopefully I only have to deal with this pain for a few more years before I can discard or sell my antiquated 32-bit numbers and migrate to a v6-only network, but alas, when it comes to that, I am largely at the mercy of others.
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> Owen
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