[ARIN-consult] Fee restructuring

Alexander McMillen amcmillen at sliqua.com
Fri Oct 26 11:08:32 EDT 2012

In terms of the ISP initial allocations and annual fees section, I think
there needs to be more consideration to smaller providers that are
adopting IPv6.

In my case, we have a /21 of IPv4 resources, and the *default* IPv6
allocation of /32. In looking at the proposed fee schedule, it's not the
IPv4 resources that end up costing me, it's the IPv6 resources; even
though I'm just taking the default allocation to start adopting IPv6
within our organization.

Per the fee schedule, if I had no IPv6 allocation - my fee would be $1000.
With the default IPv6 allocation - my fee is double that at $2000.

This will really turn off the rate of adoption especially in smaller ISP
environments that aren't seeing much of an IPv6 demand at this time,
such as ours.

Just my 2 cents.


Alexander McMillen < amcmillen(at)sliqua.com >
President and CEO - Sliqua Enterprise Hosting, Inc.
1.877.SLIQUA4 - 1.703.621.4813 x201 - http://www.sliqua.com/

On 10/26/12 10:59 AM, Christoph Blecker wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Andrew Dul - andrew.dul
> <andrew.dul at quark.net> wrote:
>> On 2012-10-25 14:35, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>> This fee restructuring places a number of incentives in the exactly
>>> wrong direction.
>>> 1. In many cases (especially end users), their fees are doubled if
>>> they adopt IPv6. At the very least, end users should not be made to
>>> pay additional annual fees as a penalty for adopting IPv6. If
>>> anything, I would suggest that ARIN consider a structure like this:
>> In general, I support the new fee schedule.  There is one area which I
>> believe needs consideration.  For the smallest end-user (1 IPv4, 1 ASN, 1
>> IPv6) their registration fees are  going to triple from $100 to $300.  I
>> don't believe this is the message that ARIN wants to send to the world at
>> large and these smallest organizations.  I don't know the number of orgs
>> that are subject to this fee increase but my guess is that this is a
>> significant number of end-user orgs.
>> My suggestion for end-users would be the first 3 records per org-id are
>> $100, then $100 for additional records.
>> Andrew
> I agree with Andrew's views, although I would suggest perhaps 5
> records per ORG. Think about it this way.. Small ORG, they instead
> have 2 existing IPv4 blocks (which is common), and an ASN. We want
> them to encourage them to *adopt* IPv6. In this case, the IPv6 block
> would be record number 4, and therefor double the annual maintenance
> that the ORG is responsible for.
> Cheers,
> Christoph
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