[ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Fee Schedule Change Consultation

William Herrin bill at herrin.us
Thu Nov 15 16:12:26 EST 2012

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> I actually like this. I support this proposal.

As do I with two caveats:

1. Don't describe it as "unpaid fees," describe it as an "accrued
transfer fee for registrations not held under a registration services
agreement" or something similarly neutral. Negative words like
"unpaid" imply a penalty and this isn't supposed to be a penalty for

2. Don't refuse to interact with a registrant on matters unrelated to
the legacy registration. Tell a legacy registrant he can't have IPv6
addresses unless he first signs over his IPv4 addresses and you make
that registrant's choice an easy one: no IPv6 this year.

Bill Herrin

> On Nov 14, 2012, at 20:14 , Jimmy Hess <mysidia at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/14/12, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 14, 2012, at 07:52 , Brian Johnson <bjohnson at drtel.com> wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> 1.   Discontinue services to legacy holders that don't start paying.
>> There is another possibility...   don't discontinue anything to
>> non-LRSA signees, but retain the usage "tracking" data necessary to
>> calculate a fee assessment amount for legacy holders who have not
>> paid, according to the ordinary fee schedule,  all past unpaid fees
>> since a certain date,  plus compound interest at prime rate plus 5%
>> over that period.    Require payment of the tracked amount, and signed
>> RSA, before any resources can be transferred in or out,  or new
>> resources can be  requested.
>> In this manner,  legacy holders  are still assessed the fees.
>> If they fail or refuse to pay, they are not denied   "legacy services".
>> There are no consequences until they need to transfer resources in or out,
>> or obtain new resources from ARIN  (e.g. IPv6 resources or additional AS number)
>>> 2.   Treat LRSA Signatories as a group that isn't subjected to the new fees.

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