[ARIN-consult] Fee restructuring

Brian Johnson bjohnson at drtel.com
Fri Nov 2 14:57:14 EDT 2012

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-consult-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-consult-
> bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of William Herrin
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:09 AM
> To: Bill Woodcock
> Cc: arin-consult at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Fee restructuring
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net> wrote:
> > Second, arguments that some other hypothetical person
> > might suffer an increased burden, that are not borne out
> > by the statistics, don't carry a heck of a lot of weight.
> >  If _you_ are unhappy with how _your_ fees are changing,
> > I want to hear about it.  Arguments about what someone
> > else, who might or might not exist, might or might not
> > think, are feckless.
> Fair enough. I currently manage three end-user BGP-multihomed
> networks. I have begun IPv6 deployment on one of them. The owner had
> some end-of-fiscal-year money and wasn't real particular about how it
> was spent.
> On the second, I'm blocked by a lack of ISP support (for *some* reason
> they've chosen not to start deploying IPv6) and by the fact that it's
> a low budget network where the ARIN cost of IPv6 is not justifiable.

HE can help you out with the proved who doesn't have IPv6 deployed: http://tunnelbroker.net/

> On the third, I'm blocked solely because the ARIN cost of IPv6 is not
> justifiable.
> I don't mean "too much." I mean not justifiable: If I deploy it now, I
> won't gain $1200 of benefit in the next 12 months. I won't gain $600
> of benefit either. Or even $100 of benefit. Not this year. The same
> money buys be a better router, another server, spare budget for
> replacement parts, something from which I will derive benefit. This
> year.

How does the organization afford it's other expenses to support the network connectivity and the like? If donated, perhaps the same organization would be willing to provide a donation for the ARIN fees. It would likely be a fraction of the losses from the donation of the network access. ;)

> If I could deploy cost-neutral, I'd do it. I can't, so I'll wait until
> the short-term benefit is much closer to the short-term cost.
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin

- Brian J

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