[consult] Community Consultation - Daily Publication of IP Addresses Issued and Returned

Andrew Dul andrew.dul at quark.net
Sun Mar 30 19:22:40 EDT 2008


Hello,

This consultation reminds me of some work I did with while on the AC 
some other members a couple of years back.  At the time the idea was to 
figure out if there was a benefit to the operational community to 
publishing the whole ARIN database in some form or another to allow 
people to filter, etc...

http://nanog.org/mtg-0405/bicknell.html

If I recall correctly there were quite a few folks who I spoke with who 
would support ARIN publishing all the allocated net-blocks.  RIPE & 
APNIC publish their entire database (ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/dbase/ & 
ftp://ftp.apnic.net/pub/whois-data/).   It seemed like the preferred 
method would be RPSL, which would allow people to take advantage of 
exiting tools, plus also could allow new tools to be created that would 
use a common database format as a source.

I personally think it would make more sense for ARIN to publish a public 
version of the entire database rather then specific daily changes.  The 
public version need not contain any "contact" information, since if 
specific contact information was needed for a particular record it could 
be obtained via WHOIS.

Andrew

Member Services wrote:
> ARIN would like to consult the community on the merits of the second 
> part of Suggestion 2008-2 [excerpt below, full suggestion at bottom]:
>
> "In addition, ARIN should publish a report of addresses returned, and 
> addresses issued, in the form of a mailing list (with daily email) and 
> an RSS feed. This will only contain allocations/assignments made 
> directly by ARIN or address blocks returned to ARIN's free pool. The 
> intent is that RBL operators can subscribe to such a feed and keep their 
> own lists clean."
>
> Although there is some merit in allowing the community prompt visibility 
> to both the IP blocks being returned to ARIN's available pool of 
> addresses and the IP blocks being issued by ARIN to the community, we 
> also see this as a potential target for abuse. Specifically, certain 
> parties may take the opportunity to use and announce IP addresses from 
> these ranges without having the administrative authority to do so.  To 
> that end, there are two questions we like to ask the community:
>
> 1) Does the community think that the merits of this proposal outweigh 
> the potential for abuse?
>
> 2) If the merits do outweigh the abuse, what sorts of suggestions do you 
> have to mitigate potential for abuse?
>
>
> Discussion on this list will close at 5:00 PM EDT 10 April. Depending 
> upon the discussion, ARIN may decide to conduct a poll on the topic 
> during the following week. Only subscribers on the consult at arin.net list 
> when the poll opens will be eligible to participate.
>
> The ARIN Consultation and Suggestion Process documentation is available at:
> http://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/acsp.html.
>
> We welcome community-wide participation.  Please address any process 
> questions to info at arin.net.
>
> Regards,
>
> Member Services
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
> ***********************************************************************
>
> 2008.2
> Submitted 01-17-2008 05:39:14
> ARIN should track all RBLs, DUNS and similar IP address blacklists.
> Then, when an address block is re-issued to another organization or 
> returned from an organization, ARIN should check these lists. If 
> addresses from the re-issued block are found on one of the lists, then 
> ARIN should attempt to inform the list maintainer.
>
> In addition, ARIN should publish a report of addresses returned, and 
> addresses issued, in the form of a mailing list (with daily email) and 
> an RSS feed. This will only contain allocations/assignments made 
> directly by ARIN or address blocks returned to ARIN's free pool. The 
> intent is that RBL operators can subscribe to such a feed and keep their 
> own lists clean.
>
>
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