[consult] "Removal of WHOIS Query Result Limit" revisited

[Heather Skanks]

I'm not going to comment on everything.. but wanted to get this in while 
folks were still around for the day.

regarding #3 - yeah, even raising it a little bit would be helpful. 
Double it, triple it.. find a way to log how many queries hit the limit, 
review the number of responses those queries would have returned and you 
have a place to start.

Regarding this bit:
>
> I have a question...if the output of this consultation is to generate
> a policy proposal, will this have to wait for the October meeting as
> it is close to the April meeting already?  And, who is going to be
> the stuckee to generate it?


The output of this consultation is *not* to generate a policy proposal. 
The consultation and suggestion process was developed specfically to 
handle things regarding ARIN services and practices ... not related to 
addressing and number resource policies.

http://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/acsp.html

The end result of this process is not something that will be added to 
the Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM)  -- but rather will change how 
ARIN staff/services function operationally.

That said, there doesn't seem to be anything that specifically prohibits 
an item from being discussed at an in person meeting.  ARIN is seeking 
input from the community on this item and has chosen to do so by using 
the consult mailing list.  At the conclusion of the consultation period, 
the Board or President may make a final decision, or in special 
circumstances, "determine that a vote by the members of ARIN is useful or 
appropriate"

--Heather

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Edward Lewis wrote:

> Prompted by the fact that I might not have network access over the
> weekend or until the end of the consultation process I'd like to
> throw the following input on the table.
>
> 1) At the previous Public Policy meeting CRISP (really IRIS) was presented.
> (see:
> http://www.arin.net/meetings/minutes/ARIN_XVIII/ppm2_transcript.html#anchor_11)
>
> I can't find a count of the hands raised (somewhere there was a count
> of 6 interested and 9 wanted a prototype which caused some confusion
> - about motivation) at the end, but I thought there was a significant
> amount of interest in this.  (Question to staff - is there a record
> of the counts at the end of the presentation?  Is my question clear?)
>
> Assuming there is will to look further into IRIS, my suggestion is to
> use this as a trial balloon for IRIS.  I.e., IRIS clients with
> approoriate credentials get un-capped results.
>
> 2) I don't want to penalize those that need access now by waiting for
> a decision on #1 and then, if it is a "go for it" implementation and
> deployment, there be some method for larger responses.  I would
> prefer at least an off-line option, like emailing in the query to the
> hostmasters and have the result mailed back.
>
> I wouldn't mind just upping the limit but I have 2 reasons to be
> negative on that.  First, there's the "if the limit is raised, then
> why bother with the IRIS experiment.  That's a cheap reason I admit.
> Second, there's the "we set the limit for a reason and it would be
> unwise to just blow it off without realizing the tradeoff of risks."
> That's harder to quantify but a bit more real than the former reason.
>
> 3) Raise the limit a bit.  Maybe from 256 to 260.  No, kidding.  Up
> to 1024 maybe.  But that is arbitrary.
>
> 4) Promote the issue and ask for anyone who has been limited and felt
> they had a legit need to get the data (as opposed to "it was a
> mistake") to register the event and ask the staff to report the
> activity at the meeting in October.
>
> These suggestions are more like wild ideas than something I'd argue
> myself into a corner over.
>
> I have a question...if the output of this consultation is to generate
> a policy proposal, will this have to wait for the October meeting as
> it is close to the April meeting already?  And, who is going to be
> the stuckee to generate it?
>
> -- 
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> Edward Lewis                                                +1-571-434-5468
> NeuStar
>
> Sarcasm doesn't scale.
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