Abuse of ARIN policies.

Come on guys.    As a webhosting provider we have to justify to ARIN
when we ask for new IP space.

A "busy" web hosting provider should be able to expect help from large
virtual ISP's, and a simple request for your numbering is not a lot to
be asked for.... 

We have clients that control 500-600 IP's and when a client does not pay
them they simply recycle that IP to another domain.  For us to keep
track of all these guy's activity would require additional tech people
to keep track of nothing but changes. 

We ask for this not to pilfer your client's but to get more IP's from
ARIN.

Lee Murphy
 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vwp at arin.net [mailto:owner-vwp at arin.net] On Behalf Of Potent
Products
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:58 PM
To: ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Abuse of ARIN policies.


Sounds to me like your Hosting company is asking you to do "their work"
for them. By default, when you have space on "someone else's" Server,
there is nothing you can hide from them. Ergo: they should know
everything you are doing.

Although they have the "authority" to make a request (like the one you
describe) I would CMA by sending the information directly to your
Hoster, using double-registered Postal Mail.

Just a thought.


Website Rob
Sitemaster at
http://www.PotentProducts.com
------------------------------------------
Helping people create a Potent Web Site


----- Original Message -----
From: "L. James Prevo" <president at prevo.net>
To: "ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)" <vwp at arin.net>
Sent: April 27, 2001 3:25 PM
Subject: Abuse of ARIN policies.


I though I would pass this onto the users of this list.  I am wondering
about your feelings about this.  Is ARIN requesting this info as this
message to this user suggest?

L. James Prevo
President
The Prevo Network
http://www.prevo.net
"The Place Where We Unlock Your Doors to the Net!"

Message: 5
From: "hirsh -e-skwirtz" <hirsheskwirtz at hotmail.com>
To: cobalt-users at list.cobalt.com
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:16:20 -0700
Subject: [cobalt-users] what the hell kind of crap is this???
Reply-To: cobalt-users at list.cobalt.com

my isp and server provider sent me this email - demanding my custoner
list -

has anybody ever had to deal with this sort of intrusion?

we have been told we will loose our servers if we do not comply

>>>>>>>

Subject: IP audit
CC: ipadmin at cobaltracks.com


Hi,

Our IP's are being checked (audited) by ARIN. We must justify the IP
usage to ARIN or we may lose IP's. If we lose the IP's we might not be
able to provide some services to you, Cobalt Racks customers (one of our
major competitors recently lost a big part of their IP allocation).

As you know, there is a shortage of IP's worldwide. Please help us to
keep the IP's and provide services for you. This is what we need:

- Complete list of all your IP's

- Complete list of ALL DOMAINS on EACH IP.

We count on your support. This information is confidential and goes only
to ARIN, which is a non-profit organization.

Please send this back by Friday, May 4, 2001. WE MUST HAVE THIS
INFORMATION!

Please send the list to ipadmin at cobaltracks.com

Thank you.

Tom Surmiak
Sales
Cobalt Racks