VWP Message

Abuse of ARIN policies.

ok, why does ANYONE need more than say 10 IP's for 100 domains
hosted??? and thats high traffice hosting too
i've seen networks do gigabytes in a few hours with as little as 15 IP's
and something like 250 domains....with ssl......on NT no less........

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Joe DeCosta
joe at decosta.org
~Off to see the wonderful wizard of Oz!~
~because of the wonderful things he does!~

On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Chapel Support wrote:

> Come on guys.    As a webhosting provider we have to justify to ARIN
> when we ask for new IP space.
> 
> A "busy" web hosting provider should be able to expect help from large
> virtual ISP's, and a simple request for your numbering is not a lot to
> be asked for.... 
> 
> We have clients that control 500-600 IP's and when a client does not pay
> them they simply recycle that IP to another domain.  For us to keep
> track of all these guy's activity would require additional tech people
> to keep track of nothing but changes. 
> 
> We ask for this not to pilfer your client's but to get more IP's from
> ARIN.
> 
> Lee Murphy
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vwp at arin.net [mailto:owner-vwp at arin.net] On Behalf Of Potent
> Products
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:58 PM
> To: ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: Abuse of ARIN policies.
> 
> 
> Sounds to me like your Hosting company is asking you to do "their work"
> for them. By default, when you have space on "someone else's" Server,
> there is nothing you can hide from them. Ergo: they should know
> everything you are doing.
> 
> Although they have the "authority" to make a request (like the one you
> describe) I would CMA by sending the information directly to your
> Hoster, using double-registered Postal Mail.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> 
> Website Rob
> Sitemaster at
> http://www.PotentProducts.com
> ------------------------------------------
> Helping people create a Potent Web Site
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "L. James Prevo" <president at prevo.net>
> To: "ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)" <vwp at arin.net>
> Sent: April 27, 2001 3:25 PM
> Subject: Abuse of ARIN policies.
> 
> 
> I though I would pass this onto the users of this list.  I am wondering
> about your feelings about this.  Is ARIN requesting this info as this
> message to this user suggest?
> 
> L. James Prevo
> President
> The Prevo Network
> http://www.prevo.net
> "The Place Where We Unlock Your Doors to the Net!"
> 
> Message: 5
> From: "hirsh -e-skwirtz" <hirsheskwirtz at hotmail.com>
> To: cobalt-users at list.cobalt.com
> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:16:20 -0700
> Subject: [cobalt-users] what the hell kind of crap is this???
> Reply-To: cobalt-users at list.cobalt.com
> 
> my isp and server provider sent me this email - demanding my custoner
> list -
> 
> has anybody ever had to deal with this sort of intrusion?
> 
> we have been told we will loose our servers if we do not comply
> 
> >>>>>>>
> 
> Subject: IP audit
> CC: ipadmin at cobaltracks.com
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Our IP's are being checked (audited) by ARIN. We must justify the IP
> usage to ARIN or we may lose IP's. If we lose the IP's we might not be
> able to provide some services to you, Cobalt Racks customers (one of our
> major competitors recently lost a big part of their IP allocation).
> 
> As you know, there is a shortage of IP's worldwide. Please help us to
> keep the IP's and provide services for you. This is what we need:
> 
> - Complete list of all your IP's
> 
> - Complete list of ALL DOMAINS on EACH IP.
> 
> We count on your support. This information is confidential and goes only
> to ARIN, which is a non-profit organization.
> 
> Please send this back by Friday, May 4, 2001. WE MUST HAVE THIS
> INFORMATION!
> 
> Please send the list to ipadmin at cobaltracks.com
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Tom Surmiak
> Sales
> Cobalt Racks
> 
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