FW: Long over due

At 12:01 PM 5/10/00 -0600, Jason Redisch wrote:
>Thanks Danny,

>	What I am proposing is that if both companies involved in a merger are
>registered ARIN ISP's that have a history with ARIN, then the justification
>of the transfer between the two maintainer ID's should be included with the
>justification the next time an ISP has to go back for more IP space.  This
>way the ISP's can focus on the mergers and ARIN can focus more energy on
>transfers between entities without a history.

Wouldn't this slow down the process for requesting more addresses?
Usually, when an ISP is requesting more addresses they're in a bigger time
crunch than when they're asking for a transfer.

Perhaps asking for utilization of the addresses isn't required as long as
the legal documention looks good.  

The ISPs that have a history with ARIN isn't as big a problem (from out
viewpoint) as those orgs that we've never heard of and will never hear of
again.

Kim  


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>	The main logic behind this change is that both ISP's had already justified
>their IP space to ARIN under the current ARIN policy.  They still must show
>they have a need for the combined IP space, but there is no reason this
>cannot be combined with the justification at the time of their next request.
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>Questions:
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>Should end users be included in this as well or should it only impact ISP to
>ISP mergers as end users may not have the need to ever come back to ARIN
>again?  What about ISP end user mergers?
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>What does is mean to have a history with ARIN?  A number of additional space
>requests?  Some period of time?
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>If something like this is approved what additional changes should be made
>the transfer policy for those organizations who do not fall under this new
>policy?  Increased cost?  More justification?
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>Is this worth the time to discuss or should we be looking at just making
>transfers more difficult across the board?
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>Jason Redisch 		(w) 720-528-4368
>Sr IP Engineer			(f) 720-528-4361
>Virtela Communications
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: danny at sofos.tcb.net [mailto:danny at sofos.tcb.net]On Behalf Of Danny
>McPherson
>Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 11:18 AM
>To: jredisch at virtela.com
>Cc: policy at arin.net
>Subject: Re: FW: Long over due
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>> I have some ideas about how we might be able to better protect the
>community
>> from 'unjustified' transfers and would really like to hear others input
>> on this topic.
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>I'll bite, what were your ideas?
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>-danny