ARIN /8s ?
Jim Fleming
JimFleming at unety.net
Sun Jun 29 19:36:10 EDT 1997
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On Sunday, June 29, 1997 3:49 PM, Stephen Sprunk[SMTP:spsprunk at paranet.com] wrote: @ As has been pointed out numerous times, an IP allocation is a LEASE, not a @ SALE. Just as a leased house is not an asset you can claim, neither is an @ IP allocation. Technically, ARIN will be leased a portion of the IP space @ (just like RIPE and APNIC, and formerly NSI) from the IANA. @ @ This, in effect, means Jon Postel owns all of the IP space. However, since @ he owns 100% of it, it essentially has a zero dollar value (since value can @ only be determined by a sale). @ The InterNIC, APNIC and RIPE were recently "given" or "leased" new /8 allocations. The value of these allocations is millions of dollars. APNIC and RIPE have recently stated that they are providing "funding" to the IANA. The InterNIC and NSI have been providing funding already. Somewhere all of these assets and payments have to show up on someone's books....I would assume... Since ARIN claims it will be an IRS approved 501(c)6, I would assume that all of these details will be spelled out in the ARIN books and records. For example, if these are leases, what is the term of the lease ? (BTW, ask the people in Hong Kong about leases and the terms) ================================================= Asia Pacific Network Information Center (NETBLK-APNIC2) Tokyo Central Post Office Box 351 Tokyo 100-91 JAPAN Netname: APNIC3 Netblock: 61.0.0.0 - 61.255.255.255 Maintainer: AP Coordinator: Conrad, David Randolph (DC396) davidc at APNIC.NET +81-3-5500-0480 (FAX) +81-3-5500-0481 ... Record last updated on 25-Apr-97. Database last updated on 29-Jun-97 05:27:22 EDT. ======================================= European Regional Internet Registry/RIPE NCC (NETBLK-RIPE-C3) These addresses have been further assigned to European users. Their contact information can be found in the RIPE database. See below how to use that database to obtain up-to-date information. Netname: RIPE-C3 Netblock: 62.0.0.0 - 62.255.255.255 Maintainer: RIPE Coordinator: RIPE Network Coordination Centre (RNC-ORG) nicdb at RIPE.NET http://www.ripe.net/nicdb.html ... Record last updated on 25-Apr-97. Database last updated on 29-Jun-97 05:27:22 EDT. ======================================= InterNIC Registration (NETBLK-INTERNIC-) Network Solutions 505 Huntmar Park Drive Herndon, VA 22070 Netname: INTERNIC-2 Netblock: 63.0.0.0 - 63.255.255.255 Maintainer: INIC Coordinator: Network Solutions, Inc. (HOSTMASTER) hostmaster at INTERNIC.NET (703) 742-4777 (FAX) (703) 742-4811 Record last updated on 25-Apr-97. Database last updated on 29-Jun-97 05:27:22 EDT. ======================================== P.S. You claim that Jon Postel owns all of the IP addresses. Can you tell me when he bought them ? -- Jim Fleming Unir Corporation
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