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ARIN Suggestions


Continuing this discussion, I have include
more specific suggestions. It is one thing
for people to stay, stop doing this or that.
I feel it is more productive to also make

On Wednesday, February 26, 1997 12:19 AM, Jim Fleming[SMTP:JimFleming at] wrote:
@ On Wednesday, February 26, 1997 12:01 AM, John Curran[SMTP:jcurran at] wrote:
@ @ At 22:42 2/25/97, Jim Fleming wrote:
@ @ 
@ @ >Resources are resources and the public good must be taken
@ @ >into account when making decisions about managing those
@ @ >resources.
@ @ 
@ @ Agreed.   The current model of having allocations 
@ @ performed by a private firm in the absence of public
@ @ input is less than ideal.  ARIN is a proposed solution
@ @ to this problem which has gained significant support
@ @ to date.
@ @ 
@ I would support several private firms doing it and
@ in my opinion, the IPv4 address space is large enough
@ to allow that to happen. Other large companies have
@ indicated to me they are making plans. Those are
@ the bright spots on the horizon.

The ISP/C might also be a good organization to support
IP address registrations. They are already set up as a non-profit.




@ Having one private firm do it with the same personnel
@ as the existing private firm appears to offer less
@ protection for the small players. At least in the
@ existing system, the U.S. Government has some
@ hand, even though it is clearly handicapped.

I have suggested before that no Network Solutions, Inc.
employees, past, present or future be allowed to be
involved until their Cooperative Agreement with
the U.S. Government ends in September 1998.

@ @ >It is one thing for people to claim they are acting
@ @ >in the interest of the public, it is another to 
@ @ >demonstrate that in forums like this.
@ @ 
@ @ I believe that ARIN will better serve the interests of
@ @ the public (and the Internet community in particular)
@ @ due to ability to actually have public input into the
@ @ process.  The current process utilizing NSI lacks this
@ @ direct input path.
@ @ 
@ That sounds good to me. I back you 110.3%.
@ You lead the way, and others will march to your drum.
@ I still suggest that you help fund ARIN with some
@ domain name registrations as part of the business plan
@ but if you feel you can make a go of it with just IP
@ addresses, God love ya...

I suggest that ARIN use the following /8s...	BBN Planet (NET-SATNET)	Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc. (NET-BBN-NET-TEMP)	Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc. (NET-BBNNET)

I have also suggested that other "start-up" IP registries
only be given one /8. There are not that many. If you
want to play on a level playing field, then maybe only
one of the above should be used and the others be

@ I started selling 32 bit addresses in 1982 for $50 each.
@ People bought them and received a signed, framed,
@ certificate to hang on their wall. We certified that those
@ numbers would be unique. That was it. People bought them
@ and that was 15 years ago...;-)
@ You might have a better market now...
@ @ >Once again, I suggest that all of the ARIN leaders publish
@ @ >a public platform/policy/position statement for the public to
@ @ >read. If you can not do that then I question how much this
@ @ >ARIN proposal is motivated by concern for the public.
@ @ 
@ @ Jim, you are seeking a public platform statment on what 
@ @ issue?
@ @ 
@ I am mostly interested in the types of comments
@ you have made. I trust that you and your company (BBN Planet)
@ will "do the right thing". This entire industry is largely
@ built on trust. That is what makes the net "work"...
@ I hope that you can set the pace and lead ARIN.
@ Let me know how I can help. I do have some experience
@ in the registry industry, despite what some people might
@ say...;-)
@ P.S. I don't expect to get any special favors in terms
@ of address allocations. I just want to see people do the
@ right thing...thanks for responding...

Again, I suggest that the InterNIC, funded by the
U.S. Government be largely kept in tact as a unit
for people to study and clone.

ARIN of course can clone all or parts, just like
other companies.

I would suggest that the ARIN founders keep an
accurate public record of what parts they are cloning,
what was involved, etc. This will allow other companies
to learn and follow the lead.

Jim Fleming
Unir Corporation

JimFleming at
JimFleming at unety.s0.g0 (EDNS/IPv8)