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Multihoming sites and ARIN

On Saturday, February 22, 1997 4:22 PM, Scott Huddle[SMTP:huddle at MCI.NET] wrote:
@ Randy,
@ At 03:45 PM 2/21/97 PST, Randy Bush wrote:
@ >> From: Scott Huddle <huddle at>
@ >                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
@ >> The arguments about "buying it all" are specious.
@ >
@ >I am sooooo reassured.
@ >
@ >randy
@ Cute :) Note the subject of the thread, little guys who want to
@ multihome have problems getting IP space from the NIC.  The current 
@ procedural mechanism for address allocation leads to a market failure, 
@ "little guys" can't  "justify" a /19.  Under a market mechanism this 
@ space would be available to them (for a price), under a market 
@ mechanism it would be possible to route this (for a price).  
@ Large ISPs would be able to get space and route it under either 
@ mechanism (for a price).  
@ Now where is my black helicopter :)
@ best regards,
@ -scott

The Internet is rapidly developing "adult supervision". You
may be applying the old rules to the current situation.

If you want to obtain a /19, you need to work with your
elected representatives and the people they are paying
to manage the Internet.

I suggest that you start with the NSF. You might be
surprised at how quickly the U.S. Government responds
to taxpayers and businesses who are in the U.S. to help
create jobs which support people who pay taxes.

People who live off of taxes, and who attempt to create
their own form of taxes, may not be as helpful to you.
Again, I suggest you talk to the people YOU are paying.

Jim Fleming


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