ARIN Fragments the InterNIC
On Saturday, February 22, 1997 1:55 PM, Jawaid Bazyar[SMTP:bazyar at HYPERMALL.COM] wrote:
@ >The current ARIN attempts to fragment the InterNIC are not in
@ >the best interest of the Internet. Instead, the InterNIC should
@ >be kept in tact and used as an educational model to help
@ >create additional "NICs" across the United States to spread
@ >the wealth and jobs around and to ensure better stability
@ >via distributed management.
@ >Folks, please face the facts. The U.S. Government controls
@ >the Internet.
@ This is utter rubbish! The Internet is a collection of inter-operating
@ private computer networks. Period. The word "private" is very important
@ here, because as of several years ago no government money goes into funding
@ or controlling the private backbones. (Yes, the government maintains their
@ own networks, no surprise there). Sprint owns their backbone, MCI owns
@ their backbone, UUnet etc etc and they all exchange traffic - that's the
@ "Inter" part of Internet.
"no government money"...?...here is $1.4 million...
> @@@ http://www.nsf.gov/ftp/awards96/awd9615/a9615927.txt
> Title : Testbed Routers for Advanced Internet Lab (TRAIL)
> Type : Award
> NSF Org : NCR
> Date : August 27, 1996
> File : a9615927
> Award Number: 9615927
> Award Instr.: Standard Grant
> Prgm Manager: Darleen L. Fisher
> NCR DIV OF NETWORKING & COMMU RES & INFRASTR
> CSE DIRECT FOR COMPUTER & INFO SCIE & ENGINR
> Start Date : October 1, 1996
> Expires : September 30, 1999 (Estimated)
> Total Amt. : $1,499,999 (Estimated)
> Investigator: Herbert Schorr schorr at isi.edu
> Allison Mankin
> Sponsor : U of Southern California
> University Park
> Los Angeles, CA 900074363 213/743-2311
> NSF Program : 4097 NETWORKING RESEARCH
> Fld Science : 31 Computer Science & Engineering
> 55 Engineering-Electrical
> Fld Applictn: 0206000 Telecommunications
> Abstract :
> USC/ISI will create and maintain TRAIL, Testbed Routers for Advanced
> Internet Labs. The TRAIL software will be a freely available, well
> maintained, community research router source, featuring IPv6 in
> particular. The work will extend and leverage developments and facilities
> of the Collaborative Advanced Interagency Research Network (CAIRN),
> organized by ISI under current DARPA funding. CAIRN is a T1, DS-3 and
> OC-3 wide area router testbed. The software is for two classes of
> hardware: 1) high performance but low-cost personal computers, supporting
> small numbers of router interfaces and 2) specialized router hardware,
> supporting the large numbers of interfaces that are characteristic of
> internet interconnect points, and providing a realistic experimental
> model of commercial IP routing technology. For the second class of
> hardware, one vendor who supports such numbers of high-speed interfaces
> proved interested in donating full source code to be used as the base of
> TRAIL. Therefore, the second class of hardware for TRAIL is the
> Ascend/Netstar, Gigarouter. It supports 32 OC-3 ATM ports, or
> combinations of ATM ports with 16 to 128 fast ethernet ports. The
> proposal focuses strongly on support of experimental users. ISI's care
> will be devoted to supporting their software, and maintaining and
> distributing versions for PC alone, and for PC along with Gigarouter. ISI
> will also maintain facilities for IPv6 networking research collaboration,
> and coordinate the North American portion of the experimental IPv6
> backbone, the "6bone".
@ >It has always been that way and it will likely always
@ >be that way. It is a resource that many people depend on and
@ >businesses are investing because of the stability, security, and
@ >opportunities that the U.S. Government provides.
@ It used to be a government project. It is a resource that many people are
@ investing in and coming to depend on.
@ The last thing that a government bureaucrat provides is stability and
@ security - what kind of security is the word of a bureaucrat? They're gone
@ in 2 or 4 years and the next batch of rascals is in office, bending your
@ life to his will in the name of "the people". Contracts between
@ individuals or corporations (enforced by the government) however are the
@ most reliable, sturdy social entity in the US. It is exactly private
@ contracts of this kind that have taken the Internet from what it was in
@ 1990, to the vastly larger and rapidly growing thing it is today.
@ In short, what controls the Internet are the companies and people that
@ built it and use it, and pay for it: primarily ISPs.
@ IP allocation is something that needs to be done, this activity needs to be
@ paid for, and the people that pay for it should be the people that use it:
I agree IP allocation needs to be done.
I have suggested that ARIN take ONE /8 and go do that
as a private company, enforced by the government, using
Why not have ARIN start small and prove the concept ?
It is called the "slow start" program for regional registries...
JimFleming at unety.net
JimFleming at unety.s0.g0 (EDNS/IPv8)