[ppml] Incentive to legacy address holders
Leo Bicknell
bicknell at ufp.org
Sun Jul 8 18:56:27 EDT 2007
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In a message written on Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 05:04:23PM -0400, Cliff Bedore wrote: > officially discuss address assignments. If you look at > http://www.bdb.com/~cliffb/bdb_netreg.jpg, you'll see a copy of my > address assignment which was issued in March of 1990. Not being funny, I want to thank you for posting the letter. I suspect more than a few people have lost their letter, and even if they have it haven't bothered to scan it in. For those who didn't get a network in 1990 this is a valuable part of history. I'd also like to show you what ARIN brings to the table. I'm sure you continue to reach the ARPA-Internet and DDN-Internet through a BBN supplied gateway so you're in compliance with this letter. Do you connect to a core gateway directly, or are you still running EGP? Humm, I'm guessing not; and of course I'm being totally sarcastic. If I were a legacy holder, I'd be worried. If I take the position you outlined (RFC's after I got my netblock don't apply, etc) then I have a great peice of paper allowing me to connect to the ARPA-Internet, or the DDN-Internet, or the NSF-Internet....none of which exist anymore. After all, the commercial Internet came after all that, so the legacy assignment must not apply to that use, right? But if I take the opposite position, that the letter carries forward and applies to today's commercial internet, then by extensions shouldn't all current RFC's under which the network is operated applied? Don't you automatically get sucked into RFC 2050? How can you pick and choose which parts of the modernized Internet apply? Most importantly, if someone, anyone were to go to court on either point of view it's likely the court would decide which applies. Which one would you prefer happens? You're not going to get any choice, unless by chance you're the one with the lawsuit. What would happen to you if the court ruled your legacy assignment doesn't mean squat in today's Internet? What if they ruled you had to comply with all current ARIN practices, including utilization requirements? However, by signing an RSA with ARIN you can get a current, up to date piece of paper, with real contractual terms going forward that back up a claim that the space is for your use. Even if some other random person out there sues and establishes one way or the other how legacy space should be treated you have no risk, being covered and up to date. You know what rules you have to follow, and you have a document that the community agrees supports your ability to use the address space That's the real reason legacy holders should want to update to a current agreement. It takes away risk. It's been said here many times, no one really knows what legacy holders are entitled to, because it was never written down. If you have a business with a risk assessment group tell that to them, and see how they react. I think if ARIN and the legacy holders can find a way to find each other and get RSA's signed it's a win for both parties. Both now clearly know that their relationship is current and what it covers. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell at ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request at tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 187 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/attachments/20070708/1e21a6f6/attachment.bin
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