[arin-discuss] [arin-announce] Community Consultation: Future Direction for the ARIN Fee Schedule

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Thu Oct 16 11:09:58 EDT 2014



On 10/15/2014 6:46 AM, John Curran wrote:
> On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Mike Horwath<drechsau at Geeks.ORG>  wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:21:59PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>> ARIN exists because we wanted it to exist, because originally IP
>>> blocks were assigned off a spiral notebook
>>
>> Well, I don't know about this 'we' thing you are talking about.
>>
>> I was in the business from 1993 to 2013 and I don't remember anyone
>> asking me if I wanted ARIN (as it stands then, or today).
>
> Mike -
>
> That's probably the case... It was discussed at length on the nanog mailing
> list and the the NANOG 11 meeting in October 1997 in Scottsdale (as well
> as on quite a few other Internet mailing lists at the time), but there are
> likely countless folks who did not hear of the change before it occurred.
>

Hey, complaining about "the gubermint" coming to town and wrecking all 
the fun is a great American tradition.

>> I have been on the outside for a year and the same kinds of bitching
>> goes on, some new, some old.
>
> Supporting frank and open communication among members (regarding ARIN's
> accomplishments and challenges in fulfilling its mission) is critical
> to ARIN's success.   While it can be repetitive at times, the list of
> topics does evolve with progress made by the organization.
>

Ironically, John, if the Internet community really and truly wanted
IP assignment to be the Wild West, and the RIR's to be weak and not 
exert any real authority, they would have dropped IPv4 and embraced
IPv6 by now.

IPv6 does not require the administrative overhead IPv4 does because
first of all with most orgs you just make ONE assignment and then they
are done, and secondly there is no shortage so there's no hoarding,
no fighting over resources, no bother of checking up on people to make
sure they are who they say they are.

Ya don't need no sheriff Pa when everyone has a 1000 acre spread.

It is absolutely fascinating how we humans invent artificial shortages
of things then fight over who is going to be the gatekeeper of those
things and get all the money.  When with a 10th of the effort we could
replace those things with other things that there is no shortage of.

It's no different than insisting on continuing to use oil to power our
vehicles.  You can quote the MIT studies and TCO that show EVs cost
half or less of dino-fueling but the vast majority of new car buyers
continue to ignore them.

Ted

> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
>



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