[arin-discuss] Does ARIN eat it's own dog food with regards to.IPv6?

Babak Pasdar bpasdar at batblue.com
Wed May 26 12:14:53 EDT 2010


Michael,

I like your idea, however the adoption meter should not decrease since when people move to IPv6, they are not necessarily moving away from IPv4.  They are not converting as much as they are adopting on a coexistence basis.

I find my biggest challenge in talking clients into planning and adopting v6 is:

1. They don't feel the pain yet.
2. There are not enough security tools that support IPv6 application/threat protection model.

Babak

 

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On May 26, 2010, at 12:12, "michael.dillon at bt.com" <michael.dillon at bt.com> wrote:

>> And, conversely, it should explicitly call out if you connected via
>> IPv4, and mention that you need to get your network running IPv6 (with
>> links to appropriate resources).
> 
> Now that is a good idea. In addition to pointing people at stuff like
> http://www.getipv6.info it should also point to the various official
> announcement texts that ARIN has made regarding v4 runout and v6.
> 
> And for everybody to see, add a DHS style "threat level" using the same
> words
> as DHS uses, Severe, High, Elevated, Guarded, Low. Come up with a
> formula
> to give a threat level as a number between 0 and 99. Then 40-59 would
> mean
> Elevated and be displayed in Yellow. I would expect that the threat
> level
> would start out somewhere in the Yellow area today.
> 
> The formula should increase the threat as we get closer to Geoff Hustons
> last
> prediction, increase it as the IANA pool decreases (i.e. every time they
> give 
> out a /8), and decrease it based on a moving ratio of IPv6 unique
> addresses versus
> IPv4 unique addresses accessing the ARIN site. Then display a pointer
> that is
> positioned based on the 0-99 number so that even when visitors see the
> same color,
> they will notice that the pointer has moved.
> 
> Given ARIN's role as provider of IPv6 addresses to all network
> operators, I
> believe that it is appropriate to call such an indicator a "threat
> level" even
> though the threat is harder to pin down because it means chaos,
> confusion and
> some business disruption.
> 
> People are familiar with the DHS system so that is what we should use.
> It can 
> all be done in CSS except the pointer, so it should not add significant
> load 
> to the site. And the formula could be changed at some future point when
> the
> unique addresses accessing ARIN's site are over 50% IPv6 so that the
> indicator
> has a chance to move down into green territory.
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