[arin-discuss] Good Stewardship by example, I'd like to RETURN a /20

[Martin Hannigan]

They go hand in hand which is why getting this stuff right as well as
participating is critical.


Best Regards,

Martin

On 7/25/09, Sweeting, John <john.sweeting at twcable.com> wrote:
> Just a quick question: Does anyone believe that the results of the elections
> do not affect and influence POLICY?
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> From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net
> To: Martin Hannigan
> Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
> Sent: Fri Jul 24 22:53:34 2009
> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Good Stewardship by example,I'd like to RETURN a
> /20
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> On Jul 24, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
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> 	Owen sent me [another] private email displaying confusion. Let me
> 	restate this [publicly] for clarity sake:
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> 		On 7/24/09, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
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> 	That would be you, Owen Delong, the author.
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> Yep.
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> 			Bottom line is that you can't designate a proxy, but, you CAN make
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> 			your input known
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> 			to the process by participating on PPML even if you do not attend a
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> 			meeting.
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> 	That would be what you said. Your text.
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> Yep... Which clearly refers to POLICY and not to Elections which is the
> only role a DMR really has.
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> 	"Where does it say you can't designate a proxy as the DMR? I believe we
> 	can designate someone as our proxy by assigning them as DMR."
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> You can't designate a proxy for POLICY matters which is what the context
> of the rest of my post made pretty clear.
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> Additionally you can't really appoint a PROXY for your DMR, so much as you
> can
> appoint anyone you chose AS your DMR.
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> 	"Each General Member shall name one designated member representative
> 	to vote on its behalf in any ARIN general election for the Board of
> 	Trustees and Advisory Council and other matters related to ARIN."
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> Right... ELECTIONS.  Nothing to do with POLICY, the subject of my post.
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> 	That would be a quote from the ARIN bylaws.
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> 	"The DMR must have a name and personalized e-mail address on record
> 	with the Member Services Department to be eligible to vote. The e-mail
> 	must include the person's name or initials and the organization's
> 	domain name. Role accounts are not acceptable."
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> 	That would be from the ARIN website.
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> 	Personally, I question that validity of ARIN requiring that form for
> 	the DMR without it being codified in the by-laws or even a community
> 	policy. Any email address should suffice as long as it is properly
> 	directed by the member.
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> I'll leave that between you and the BoT who are responsible for those
> decisions.
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> 	Regardless, the bottom line is yes, you can in fact assign a proxy to
> 	cast your vote if you so choose.
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> Sure, in elections. However, since the discussion was about how to
> affect POLICY discussions and "votes", the DMR is a rathole to the
> original discussion and really has nothing to do with the subject.
>
> Owen
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