[arin-discuss] Good Governance
Dean Anderson
dean at av8.net
Sat May 31 19:45:02 EDT 2008
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On Sat, 31 May 2008, Steve Bertrand wrote: > > I am once again having to respond to irrelevant personal attacks just to > > set the record straight. > > Although I'm a relative newbie here, I'm curious to know that if what is > said you consider irrelevant, why bother responding at all...? > > What I mean is, if they are irrelevant to you, then they more than likely > will be irrelevant to others. Why not just let the record straighten > itself? A rational argument consists of facts and logic and proceed by deduction or analogy. Rules and laws are facts. In a rational argument, there is no grammatical personal object for the concept of relevance---it is senseless to say 'irrelevant _to_a_person_'. In rational argument, relevance is significant to the argument, not to the person. An argument is analyzed by identifying facts, their truth or falsity, and eliminating facts that are irrelevant to the argument. This is the essential process of government. A related concept is 'personal attack'. A personal attack is _not_ something that is merely negative about the person. A personal attack must be: 1. /irrelevant to the argument/ and 2. /personal/. If the argument is about pricing corn for export to China, we can probably see that John Doe's overweight condition is both irrelevant and personal. But if the argument is whether McDonald's burgers contain too much saturated fat that creates weight gain and associated health problems, then John Doe's weight is relevant. And to be specific, if we talk about mismanagement of the corporation, then the personal conflicts of interest and disregard the rules by the management staff are also relevant. Recall that Dreger, before falling off into irrelevant claims, asserts that my criticisms of ARIN management for disregarding the rules is somehow an ad hominem attack. > I would think that responding to 'irrelevant' comments would just > instigate further 'irrelevant' comments...no? The actual relevance of an asserted fact to an argument is an important consideration. Indeed, relevance or irrelevance is sometimes THE most important consideration. Also, the persons who frequently make claims without a basis in fact are discredited as being unreliable. Reliable people make limited, qualified statements that have a basis in fact. And it is also necessary to discredit false claims in order to obtain honest government. The objective of irrelevant comments is sometimes to make false, misleading, sometimes defamatory, claims. Those claims need to be corrected or else a misleading impression is created by those who continue to repeat false claims. In this case, Dreger misrepresents my position and past statements in a fabrication intended to discredit me as somehow having irrational positions. This is very similar to what ARIN CEO Plzak did previously---it is a sly attempt to continue Plzak's fictitious attack which disrupted my membership rights. I think it is no coincidence that Dreger and Plzak are associated through NANOG. Many of the people making fabrications against me are associated through NANOG. Indeed, I see Steve Bertrand is also participating recently in NANOG. NANOG is a very small organization and only a small fraction of ARIN members participate in NANOG. Yet somehow, all of the ARIN Board Members and the ARIN CEO are associated with this small organization, and are doing things with ARIN money that the ARIN membership doesn't do and probably wouldn't do. Board members are supposed to act in the membership's interest, not in their own interest. ARIN is also a trade association under 501(c6) of the IRS rules. The IRS rules prohibit a trade association from doing things that don't benefit all of the members. Since so few ARIN members participate in NANOG, it is hard to see that large transfers to NANOG (described below) benefit all of the ARIN members and not just the NANOG members. Since you are new, you may not know that all of the ARIN Board Members and CEO Ray Plzak are associated with NANOG, and all have a conflict of interest. One board member, Scott Bradner has refused to respond to queries about his apparent conflicts of interest in NANOG. You may not know that ARIN is sending large amounts of money to NANOG, even though only a small fraction of ARIN members participate in NANOG. ARIN provides one third of NANOG's budget in large donations that seem to violate the 501(c6) rules on spending that doesn't benefit all the members. There is no objection to ARIN sending paid speakers to NANOG or anywhere else that will pay for an ARIN speaker. But instead ARIN is paying NANOG. ARIN management is paying NANOG by sending a large number of ARIN employees to NANOG: employees such as the executive secretary, whose jobs have nothing whatsoever to do with network operations; employees including Resource Analysts who decide allocation decisions and who could be ethically compromised by personal relationships with network operations persons who make allocation requests to ARIN. We have also discovered anomalies in the allocation of IP Address blocks: Some persons have received allocations in as little as 2 hours. Of two persons who reported these short times, one is associated with NANOG. The other says he is not associated with NANOG, but didn't identify the company receiving the allocation in 2 hours. ARIN has not released any information on the allocation times, and ARIN management stonewalls investigation. You also may not know that the ARIN Board members were "elected" in elections that didn't have a proper quorum of 10% of the ARIN membership. These elections violated the ARIN charter and bylaws and were contrary to the specific requirements of the Virginia Non-profit Corporation Act. ARIN has asserted that the Notices of meeting fulfill the quorum requirements. I have responded that Notices are required under the Virgina Act, and that ARIN's interpretation makes the Act's quorum requirements meaningless. It is a principle of law that any interpretation of law that makes a part of the law meaningless is not a correct interpretation. As others have said: "It seems to me that the officers elected in the disputed election should be ladies and gentleman and should resign for the benefit of the organization they represent. Then we should take a new vote. Prior non-participants (like me) will probably vote this time." ARIN board members continue their unseemly clinging to powers, even though most were elected with only about 2% of the ARIN membership voting for them. They and don't appear to represent the membership in any demographic except the NANOG group. Myself and other ARIN members have also been trying to investigate these issues, but have been stonewalled by ARIN management. Myself and other ARIN members also oppose the taking of Legacy IP Address Space under the false pretense of "protection" from the unjustified removal of IN-ADDR and WHOIS services. Before ARIN took this controversial action (without the approval of the membership), members asked ARIN to get a formal legal opinion on its right to do this. ARIN did not get a formal legal opinion as requested, and does not appear to have seriously investigated the legal issue. We assert that ARIN has no right to remove essential government services from Legacies who do not transfer their property to ARIN, and thus no right the threaten such removal or offer "protection" from such removal. Indeed, ARIN has not given Legacies _any_ indication of their property rights in the matter, nor any indication that Legacies have a right to the government functions performed by ARIN in the maintenance of Legacy registration records, IN-ADDR services, and WHOIS services. Legacies understandably feel threatened by the prospect of losing these services and ARIN has no right to remove these services. We believe that ARIN should be investigated for violation of the Hobbs Act in these activities. I hope that clears things up. --Dean -- Av8 Internet Prepared to pay a premium for better service? www.av8.net faster, more reliable, better service 617 344 9000
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