[arin-discuss] The joy of SWIPping

Aaron Wendel aaron at wholesaleinternet.com
Tue May 20 16:44:56 EDT 2008


Tim,

>Interesting how this discussion has changed from:
>
>"what is required to be in SWIP"
>
>to 
>
>"what is required for me to get my next IP block allocation"

Is there any other reason to SWIP?  :)

>In any case, my experience with the ARIN staff has been different
>than yours.

Obviously.  Stating your experiences in your original reply would have been
very helpful.

>But, I will also state that if your chewing up IP that fast and in
>such quantity that your asking for numerous allocations that
>you frankly have no competitive problems with disclosing your
>customer list.
>
>Disclosure of your customer list only hurts you if it results in
>customer loss.  And, you obviously do not have significant customer
>loss if your asking for numerous allocations.  So why do you care
>that this data is public?

Why chance it?  Maybe I have good customer retention because of the
precautions I take to keep their identities private.

>How exactly would ARIN have the time to actually contact any of
>the names in your SWIPped list and verify that they were actually
>legitimate, and that you hadn't simply put a bunch of fake
>names and addresses in there?

They wouldn't.  It's an honor system and truthfully, it would take way to
long to make up a bunch of names.  I suppose I could use a phone book or
something but using the actual IP list is easier and quicker and....  what's
the point?  If I already have IPs I need to fake utilization for I obviously
don't need new ones. :)

Aaron







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