[arin-discuss] No quorum in last election

Chris Gettings chris.gettings at videonext.com
Mon Feb 4 22:09:51 EST 2008


The cherry on top comes with lawyers and venture capitalists.  It is  
usual and customary that the company receiving a VC investment pays  
for both its own lawyers, and the legal fees of the VC investor.  So  
you pay both sides, and neither firm has any incentive to keep the  
cost down.  You are directly paying the two lawyers to argue with each  
other, which might be hugely amusing if it was not so hugely  
expensive, slow and painful.

Chris

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On Feb 4, 2008, at 9:54 PM, "Dean Anderson" <dean at av8.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> > >By the way, which attorney made these claims?
> > >
> >
> > He might well ask you the same ting.
>
> First, I when do my own research, I say so and cite my sources.   
> When I
> post my attorney's opinion, I say so. Mr. Curran said his (ARIN's)
> attorney issued an opinion; I have a right to that attorney's name.
> Denying that information is mere intransigence which unnecessarilly
> increases my expenses--I have to pay my attorney to get the name  
> before
> we can ask questions of that attorney about his opinion.
>
> Second, I think a conference with that attorney would wrap this up in
> about 5 minutes.
>
> Third, as I pointed out in
> http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-discuss/2008-January/000728.html
> Attorneys have more obligations in their opinions.
>
> > This is getting to the hugely amusing part.  Dean's (allegedly)
> > paying an attorney to verify his assertions.  However, Dean's also
> > paying dues to ARIN which pay for ARIN's attorney to respond to
> > Dean's attorney.  Thus, Dean is in effect paying 2 attorneys
> > to argue with each other.
>
> Well, actually, sometimes they have paid my legal fees.  I was paid
> ~$14,000 once when an admin made misrepresentations to me and  
> increased
> my legal expenses unnecessarilly.  When someone acts unreasonably and
> causes you to expend money unnecessarilly, that money is recoverable.
>
> > Man, why was I so dumb as to go into networks?  I could have
> > been a lawyer and got guarenteed income for life.
>
> I agree. Attorneys are definitely the smart ones.
>
>                 --Dean
>
>
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