[arin-discuss] Legacy RSA
Hutchison, Tine
THutchison at corp.untd.com
Tue Nov 6 13:20:09 EST 2007
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I think there's an underlying issue that you're failing to address (in the specific case of the expanded travel and outreach budget.) The issue is "is VON contrary to the stated purpose of ARIN?" Two of ARIN's purposes, as stated in their articles of incorporation (http://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/artic_incorp.html) are: 1) to increase and diffuse knowledge to the general public about the Internet in its broadest sense; 2) to educate industry and the Internet community in order to further their technical understanding of the Internet; These two lines - which are so critical as to warrant being the first purposes listed - seem to indicate that ARIN is justified in spending money to go to nearly any event where "the Internet community" or even "the general public" might attend. While this would justify ARIN going to pretty much any event, they seem to be restricting themselves to events relevant to people who operate the Internet. Your presence at VON proves that VON is in the range of relevant events. Other people on the lest chiming in that they were also there reinforces that. Tine -----Original Message----- From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Dean Anderson Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 5:09 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Legacy RSA On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Internet Partners, Inc. Tech Support wrote: > >> > >> Dean, I agreed with you in general on VON but the horse is dead. > >> Have you ever considered the possibility that ARIN Management > >> simply doesen't know what shows to go to? > > > >This isn't a one-time mistake. It appears to be a $400,000+ mistake. > > It couldn't have cost $400,000 to fly 2 guys from CA to Boston to host > a booth at VON. You have to be kidding, there has to be something > else that the line item is paying for. I guess I wasn't clear. One conference would be a one-time mistake. The one conference I cited was the one where I had some personal experience to relate. But I understand they've been at VON several times. There are apparently other trips under the banner of 'educational outreach'. These add up to a $1.2 million dollar travel item; approximately $400,000 more the prior year's travel expenses. If they are all as educational as this VON conference, then none of them are legitimate. The Nanog transfer was also asserted to be "educational outreach". These are not genuine efforts at education, but junkets. In the case of Nanog, assistance to cronies of Board Members. So, it seems that Board Members overlook ARIN employee junkets, and ARIN staff overlook the unjustified transfers to Nanog and Board Member cronies. One scratches the other's back, both obtain benefits, and Members lose. This is what you hire managers to prevent, and why you fire them when these things are uncovered. Board Members also have fiduciary duties; they are supposed to act in the interests of the membership and ensure that the corporation employees carry out the purposes (and only the purposes) of the corporation. The Board of Directors are also supposed to have an arms-length supervisory relationship with the management. Board members should not be doing things that employees would ordinarily do. We also have ARIN engaging in extortion of Legacys, as I described previously. This relates to other similar activity, and to an ARIN Board Member previously accused in Court of, among other things, extortion and organized crime, for which a Temporary Restraining Order was issued. Let me try to put some perspective on the issue with some background: Who's who (abbreviated): --------- Paul Vixie is an ARIN Board Member. Bill Woodcock is an ARIN Board Member and NANOG Program Committee member. Bill Manning is an ARIN Board Member and a past NANOG Program Committee member. Manning has also helped Vixie/ISC avoid responsibility for SORBS support. http://www.iadl.org/bm/bill-manning-story.html This page needs to be updated, Vixie has since moved SORBS to Dave Rand's bungi.com network. Rodney Joffe is a NANOG Program Committee member. Joffe is also the founder of Whitehat.com a spam operation. Prior to founding Whitehat, Joffe worked for American Computer Group, Mailorder.com, a junk postal mail services company. Vixie was (may still be--they've removed the Board of Directors from the web site) a board member of Whitehat. Joffe currently works for NeuStar, a company that provides services to VON. Martin Hannigan. NANOG Email List Management Committee, ARIN AC member. Ed Lewis (NeuStar) supports ARIN booth at VON. NeuStar provides services to VON and has sponsored NANOG. Keith Mitchell is a NANOG Program Committee member who works for Paul Vixie on NANOG. Chris Morrow, NANOG Program Committee. Recently appointed Chair of IETF GROW WG. The GROW WG is in charge of a draft promoting DNS Root Anycast, promoted by Vixie. Dave Rand co-founded MAPS with Vixie. It seems the 'old MAPS gang' is back together on SORBS. Robert Seastrom is an ARIN AC member and a prominent Nanog member engaged in "Nanog Futures". Seastrom's company (Cambridge Bandwidth Consortium) is promoted by Paul Vixie at http://www.vix.com/personalcolo/, though Seastrom appears to have moved on from there. http://www.cambridge.bandwidth-consortium.us/ Dean Anderson is the President of the League for Programming Freedom, and the owner of Av8 Internet, Inc, member of ARIN, member of ISOC. So we have three board members who have close interests in NANOG, including one with previous TRO with very disturbing claims. And we have a rather interesting circle of interests and cronies involving ARIN Board Members and NANOG. John Curran is also a participant in NANOG. What is NANOG and What it is Doing? ---------------------------------- Someone also asked me what Nanog is. NANOG is "North American Network Operators Group". It has a web page at http://www.nanog.org. I have a web page on the group at http://www.iadl.org/nanog/nanog-story.html Nanog is a group of about 50 or so core members with several hundred more transient members (people who post to the list or attend meetings for a few years or less). It ostensibly claims to educate network operations staff, but it is really a political or business operation that just promotes the business interests of the core members. Nanog has been involved in promoting the notion that network operators can read customers email, suppressing anyone who disputed this notion (e.g. myself). This has been used to in spam operations. Prominent participants, Paul Vixie and Rodney Joffe et al, have run a spam blacklist (MAPS, SORBS, Spamhaus) and also run a spam company called Whitehat (www.whitehat.com). So, they block their competition with MAPS/SORBS, send spam from that isn't blocked, and through NANOG encourage network operators to (illegally) read customer emails and report on the activities of their competition. Vixie and company basically just stole Sanford Wallace's business plan. Wallace was a well-know spammer in the late 90s, and also sold anti-spam software. Vixie represented himself as a 'radical' anti-spammers. For example, Vixie wrote about spam that "the war won't be over until the last spammer's head is stuck onto a spear at the city limits.". A very extreme and brutal statement. Meanwhile, Vixie and prominent anti-spammers John Levine and Ray Everett-Church were a board members of privately held Whitehat. Board members in privately held companies are often the major investors, but I don't know for who owns Whitehat. In 1997, Martin Hannigan, Hannigan advertised routes disrupting Wallace's network access. Whitehat was unaffected. In the 1990s, Anderson disputed false claims on NANOG that, for example, the Electronic Communications Privacy Act does not apply to ISPs. Anderson was threatened with violence and silenced on NANOG for holding reasonable viewpoints. In 2001, Vixie was found with sufficient facts in Exactis v. MAPS to warrant a Temporary Restraining Order(TRO) for anti-trust violation, intentional and negligent misrepresentation and extortion, Colorado Organized Crime Control Act, et al. MAPS responded with a First Amendment argument that was rejected. After their lawyer was chastised, they settled with Exactis. This TRO appears to be sufficient justification to label all involved as being suspected of ties to organized crime. In 2003, it was discovered (SpamKings, 2003) that MAPS employees were working for uber spammer Scott Richter (optinrealbig.com) doing listwashing, that is, removing spam-trap email addresses from his spam lists. So after Anderson was vindicated on the ECPA and Anti-trust issues, Vixie/SORBS et al retaliated by falsely stating that networks announced by Av8 Internet (198.3.136/21 and 130.105/16) are hijacked. After criticism on ARIN's PPML mailing list, Vixie has since moved SORBS to Dave Rand's bungi.com network. Vixie then claimed to have never hosted SORBS. In 2003, Chris Morrow (Nanog Steering Committee) published routes disrupting AV8 Internet 198.3.136/21 network, repeating Hannigan's act against Wallace. This was during a 'hijacking' dispute and after Morrow had the documents proving the networks were properly transferred; AFTER ARIN were involved; and AFTER Lawyers for UUnet and AV8 were involved. Morrow said that he couldn't reach Anderson by phone and that he needed to disrupt the network "to get [Anderson's] attention", although Morrow had contacted Anderson by phone before. After lawyers are involved, Morrow should have contacted his lawyer, not Anderson directly. Anderson contact UUnet's lawyer, who had not authorized Morrow's disruption. Intentionally damaging a computer in Interstate Commerce is a criminal offense. In 2007, Morrow was abruptly placed in charge of the IETF GROW (Global Routing) Working Group. There is usually a call for volunteers, and qualified volunteers are selected. Morrow has no previous experience with the IETF or the GROW WG. Morrow works in customer security and previously worked as UUnet Postmaster. The GROW WG is in charge a controversial DNS Root Anycast Document. In 2004, Nanog participant JA Terranson (formerly SAVVIS) and Spamhaus extorted SAVVIS into terminating its CAN-SPAM compliant emailers. http://www.iadl.org/JATerranson/JATerranson-story.html Terranson was fired after disclosing confidential customer information to Spamhaus. Spamhaus doesn't block Whitehat, though. Dave Rand (Vixie partner in MAPS) supports Spamhaus. Most recently, NANOG has been involved in promoting the controversial notion that stateful Anycast is stable. Anycast is the technique of assigning the same IP address to two or more computers, and is described by RFC1546. RFC1546 specifically says that Anycast will only work for stateless services. Vixie and some other root DNS server operators have begun selling Root DNS Anycast services to ISPs. DNS is mostly stateless, but Root DNS server operators have to perform TCP DNS services, which are stateful. See http://www.av8.net/IETF-watch/DNSRootAnycast/History.html Anderson was silenced in May, 2005 for posting 3rd party statistical data on SORBS and for disputing claims made by Vixie about Anycast. There are other scams that I won't list here. Nanog also posted a financial 'update' for 2006. http://www.nanog.org/budget/financial-updates.pdf Revenue was about $181k and posted a loss of about $38k. This loss was covered by ARIN's $50k donation. ARIN made up almost a third of the NANOG budget. NANOG is a VERY small organization. -- Av8 Internet Prepared to pay a premium for better service? www.av8.net faster, more reliable, better service 617 344 9000 _______________________________________________ ARIN-Discuss You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (ARIN-discuss at arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss Please contact the ARIN Member Services Help Desk at info at arin.net if you experience any issues.
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