consistancy
Cathy Wittbrodt
cjw at remarque.org
Mon Sep 18 22:13:26 EDT 2000
You have this slightly wrong. ARIN is not the ASO. The Address
Supporting Organization was formed by ICANN based on a MOU that was
written by the existing regional registries. You have included most
of the MOU below, but it seems that the part about the selecting the
council, etc, may be missing. Under that MOU the Address
Council was formed by folks nominated and elected by each of the
regions. I am on the ASO AC and I have just asked to have legacy space
reclaimation added to our agenda for our next meeting in October.
If you would like to submit comments or items for the address council
you can participate in the aso-policy list or any of the other lists
(http://www.aso.icann.org/lists/) Further you can contact me directly.
Thanks,
---CJ
From: Mury <mury at goldengate.net>
Subject: Re: consistancy
Hold the fort!
I've taken some time to try to understand the authority and the role of
ARIN in relation to ICANN instead of taking some people's word for it.
Here is a summary of what I found on ICANN's site. I have pasted the text
from http://www.aso.icann.org/docs/aso-mou.html further down as a
reference.
1) The ICANN bylaws assign to the ASO (which ARIN is) the responsibility
for the development of global policies relating to the definition of
global policies for the distribution and registration of Internet address
space (currently IPv4 and IPv6);
2) Normally, proposals for global policies within the area of the ASO's
responsibility will be developed within the RIRs and forwarded to the
Address Council for their consideration.
3) In addition the Address Council may accept, for consideration,
proposals for changes to global IP address policy from any interested
individual or entity.
Doesn't this sound like it is ARIN's responsibilty to develop policies and
not ICANNs? It sure reads like ICANN has given ARIN not just the
authority, but the responsibility to create *global* policies for
registration of address space. There are no conditions listed, no
exceptions.
What am I not understanding?
Unless I'm badly mistaken in my understanding of a RIR's role as defined
by ICANN, I would like to suggest that ARIN and it's decision making
bodies consider creating policies for reclaiming largely unused legacy
address space.
What I do not know is if this has already been done and rejected by ICANN.
If so, I would like to see copies of the rejection so I can approach ICANN
as a concerned citizen.
Thank you.
Mury
GoldenGate Internet Services
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(4) Duties of the Address Council.
(a) Advisory Role. The Address Council will advise the Board of ICANN on
matters referred to the Address Council by the ICANN Board.
(b) Policy Development.
The ICANN bylaws assign to the ASO the responsibility for the
development of global policies relating to the following areas:
(i) Definition of global policies for the distribution
and registration of
Internet address space (currently IPv4 and IPv6);
(ii) Definition of global policies for the distribution
and registration of
identifiers used in Internet inter-domain routing
(currently BGP autonomous system numbers); and
(iii) Definition of global policies concerning the part
of the DNS name
space which is derived from the Internet address space
and the
inter-domain routing identifiers (currently in-addr.arpa
and ip6.int).
<snip>
Normally, proposals for global policies within the area of the ASO's
responsibility will be developed within the RIRs and forwarded to the
Address Council for their consideration. In special circumstances the
ICANN board can forward a request to develop a new global policy or to
review an existing global policy within the area of the ASO's
responsibility to the Address Council.
In addition the Address Council may accept, for consideration, proposals
for changes to global IP address policy from any interested individual or
entity.
In all cases when the Address Council reviews a proposal for new global
policies or a proposed modification to existing policies in this area it
will first solicit the opinions of all of the RIR signatories of the MOU
and of the public. The Address Council will weigh the results of these
solicitations in its deliberations to determine if it will approve the
proposal. At least two thirds of the members of the Address Council must
support a proposal for the proposal to be accepted and forwarded to the
ICANN board for its consideration.
In any case where the ICANN board has requested that the Address Council
develop a new policy within the area of the ASO's responsibility, the
Address Council will forward that request to the RIR signatories of the
MOU. The RIRs will then be given a reasonable time to propose policies to
address the request from ICANN. Any resulting policy will be evaluated as
described above. If an RIR decides, after reviewing the request, that the
request is unreasonable, it can report that opinion to the Address
Council. If the Address Council, after reviewing the responses, decides
that the request is unreasonable or inadvisable, it can report that
opinion to the ICANN board along with the reasons that the Address Council
reached that conclusion.
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Mury wrote:
>
> This might sound like nit-picking, but I think it's an important issue to
> figure out before I "petition" IANA/ICANN with the below request. Does
> ARIN want to be given authority to oversee those blocks? I certainly
> don't want to ask for something to be given to ARIN that ARIN doesn't
> want.
>
> Perhaps if the AC, the membership, or whoever needs to, can decide on that
> first, then ARIN as well as concerned individuals can approach IANA/ICANN
> with the suggestion/request.
>
> If ARIN doesn't want the be given that authority, then as a concerned
> Internet citizen I'll ask them to do it themselves. While it seems that
> the RIRs are all setup to be able to deal with the process for accounting
> for legacy space, maybe a new ASO (Since it probably isn't regional)
> should be created for dealing with the unique issues that reclaiming will
> probably have.
>
> So, should ARIN (RIRs) have the authority and does it want it?
>
> Mury
>
> Side note: Can someone tell me how much of the legacy space would fall
> under ARIN's region?
>
>
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, Alec H. Peterson wrote:
>
> > Mury wrote:
> > >
> > > No offense to you personally with these questions, but I've been told I am
> > > not qualified to act as any sort of "spokesperson" for the ARIN
> > > membership, and that I'm an idiot for asking for the list of legacy space
> > > contacts.
> > >
> > > So my questions are:
> > >
> > > Is it appropriate for me to "petition IANA/ICANN" essentially on behalf of
> > > ARIN?
> >
> > No, but it would be appropriate for you to petition ICANN/IANA as a
> > concerned user of address space (and perhaps an ARIN member, although I
> > don't know offhand if you are) to either take it upon themselves to reclaim
> > address space or delegate authority to do so appropriately (ie, to the
> > RIRs).
> >
> > Alec
> >
> > --
> > Alec H. Peterson - ahp at hilander.com
> > Staff Scientist
> > CenterGate Research Group - http://www.centergate.com
> > "Technology so advanced, even _we_ don't understand it!"
> >
>
>
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