[ARIN-consult] RPKI/IRR Consultation Reminder and Update

Delong.com owen at delong.com
Mon Sep 11 15:46:11 EDT 2023


The problem I see with that thinking is I wouldn’t want to see IRR objects that were not the automatic result of
ROA creation removed when the ROA expires or is removed.

Owen


> On Sep 11, 2023, at 12:41, Richard Laager <rlaager at wiktel.com> wrote:
> 
> On 2023-09-08 09:54, Rhys Barrie via ARIN-consult wrote:
>> In my opinion, opt-in is functionally equivalent to not changing anything at 
>> all, because 95% of organizations will never make the conscious effort to click 
>> the button.
> Agreed.
> 
> 
>> hearing Job's feedback, and seeing LACNIC's success with a 
>> tightly-coupled integration, I am reasonably convinced as to the validity and 
>> efficacy of that solution, and I agree that opening the door to discrepancies 
>> WILL cause discrepancies (and outright issues as a result) to occur. I believe 
>> that pure opt-in/opt-out exacerbates the long-tail problem as well.
> Agreed.
> 
> 
> 
> As long as we are talking about RPKI automating IRR, this should be fine.
> 
> The opposite (creating a route object creates a ROA) is not reasonable, IMHO. I don't think anyone has suggested that approach, though.
> 
> Also, AFAIK, nobody has suggested that IRR route objects would require ROAs, right? As of right now, I still have the problem that I can create IRR records, but not ROAs, as ROAs can only be created for direct allocations, not reallocations.
> 
> -- 
> Richard
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