Abuse of ARIN policies.

[Joe DeCosta]

ok, why does ANYONE need more than say 10 IP's for 100 domains
hosted??? and thats high traffice hosting too
i've seen networks do gigabytes in a few hours with as little as 15 IP's
and something like 250 domains....with ssl......on NT no less........

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Joe DeCosta
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Chapel Support wrote:

> Come on guys.    As a webhosting provider we have to justify to ARIN
> when we ask for new IP space.
> 
> A "busy" web hosting provider should be able to expect help from large
> virtual ISP's, and a simple request for your numbering is not a lot to
> be asked for.... 
> 
> We have clients that control 500-600 IP's and when a client does not pay
> them they simply recycle that IP to another domain.  For us to keep
> track of all these guy's activity would require additional tech people
> to keep track of nothing but changes. 
> 
> We ask for this not to pilfer your client's but to get more IP's from
> ARIN.
> 
> Lee Murphy
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vwp at arin.net [mailto:owner-vwp at arin.net] On Behalf Of Potent
> Products
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:58 PM
> To: ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: Abuse of ARIN policies.
> 
> 
> Sounds to me like your Hosting company is asking you to do "their work"
> for them. By default, when you have space on "someone else's" Server,
> there is nothing you can hide from them. Ergo: they should know
> everything you are doing.
> 
> Although they have the "authority" to make a request (like the one you
> describe) I would CMA by sending the information directly to your
> Hoster, using double-registered Postal Mail.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> 
> Website Rob
> Sitemaster at
> http://www.PotentProducts.com
> ------------------------------------------
> Helping people create a Potent Web Site
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "L. James Prevo" <president at prevo.net>
> To: "ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)" <vwp at arin.net>
> Sent: April 27, 2001 3:25 PM
> Subject: Abuse of ARIN policies.
> 
> 
> I though I would pass this onto the users of this list.  I am wondering
> about your feelings about this.  Is ARIN requesting this info as this
> message to this user suggest?
> 
> L. James Prevo
> President
> The Prevo Network
> http://www.prevo.net
> "The Place Where We Unlock Your Doors to the Net!"
> 
> Message: 5
> From: "hirsh -e-skwirtz" <hirsheskwirtz at hotmail.com>
> To: cobalt-users at list.cobalt.com
> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:16:20 -0700
> Subject: [cobalt-users] what the hell kind of crap is this???
> Reply-To: cobalt-users at list.cobalt.com
> 
> my isp and server provider sent me this email - demanding my custoner
> list -
> 
> has anybody ever had to deal with this sort of intrusion?
> 
> we have been told we will loose our servers if we do not comply
> 
> >>>>>>>
> 
> Subject: IP audit
> CC: ipadmin at cobaltracks.com
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Our IP's are being checked (audited) by ARIN. We must justify the IP
> usage to ARIN or we may lose IP's. If we lose the IP's we might not be
> able to provide some services to you, Cobalt Racks customers (one of our
> major competitors recently lost a big part of their IP allocation).
> 
> As you know, there is a shortage of IP's worldwide. Please help us to
> keep the IP's and provide services for you. This is what we need:
> 
> - Complete list of all your IP's
> 
> - Complete list of ALL DOMAINS on EACH IP.
> 
> We count on your support. This information is confidential and goes only
> to ARIN, which is a non-profit organization.
> 
> Please send this back by Friday, May 4, 2001. WE MUST HAVE THIS
> INFORMATION!
> 
> Please send the list to ipadmin at cobaltracks.com
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Tom Surmiak
> Sales
> Cobalt Racks
> 
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