WebHosting Policy- SSL (fwd)

Fri Apr 27 14:13:21 EDT 2001

Erm, no, IPv6 doesn't require a new network from scratch.  IPv6 can (and
currently does, in some places) run tunneled inside IPv4, and ultimately
current IPv4 addresses could simply become a tiny subsection of the IPv6
address space.

Instead of 4-byte network addresses, you have 8-byte addresses.  So one
easily fits in the other.

For more information see:

http://www.6bone.net/
http://www.ipv6.org/

I'll agree that more financial incentive is needed for IPv6 to get
traction, though.

Kevin

> And for that reason alone it should be noted that IPV6 will never be seen.
> The only way it could possibly work is to start with a new network from
> scratch.
> 
> Neil
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe DeCosta" <joe at decosta.org>
> To: <vwp at arin.net>
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:14 PM
> Subject: Re: WebHosting Policy- SSL (fwd)
> 
> 
> > I'm curious if you really understand the implications of "just get IPv6
> > working and forget about all this really are.  EVERY router in the world,
> > and ever workstation MUST be either upgraded or patched to work with both
> > IPv4 and IPv6, and until they are all patched we can't begin to move over
> > to IP6.  IP6 is too far away because of what will have to be done with
> > every router etc......workstations and end users aren't going to be that
> > hard, because it's either replace some files in the system folder (mac),
> > update some DLL's (windows), or replace some libraries and madify the
> > kernel (*nix), the client side is the easiet to convert, get all the
> > routers done and we can do it, but until then, we have to just deal with
> > it........
> >
> > ===================
> >
> > Yes Sir, we'll get right on it, Sir :)
> >
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> > >Do you guys realize the amount of account required to do that? It would
> > >make my zone huge and then to go back and delete it. Also my resellers
> > >wouldn't like that. This would be a complete nightmare. Just get IPv6
> > >working and forget about all this.
> > >
> > >Neil
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Hershey" <hershey at easystreet.com>
> > To: "ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)" <vwp at arin.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:57 PM
> > Subject: RE: WebHosting Policy- SSL
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > One way is to use alternate hostnames in our a different domain (such as
> > the
> > > domain of the hosting provider, i.e. username.domain.com). This also
> > allows
> > > customers to access the site before it moves, and to access in the event
> > > there are problems with their domain, such as it being placed 'On Hold'
> > by
> > > their registrar.
> > > --
> > >
> > > -Chris Hershey
> > > hershey at easystreet.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-vwp at arin.net [mailto:owner-vwp at arin.net]On Behalf Of Neil
> > H.
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:50 AM
> > > > To: ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)
> > > > Subject: Re: WebHosting Policy- SSL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For new accounts setup that use FrontPage extensions how would a user
> > pre
> > > > publish their site before the domain name resolved?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Neil
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bill Darte" <billd at cait.wustl.edu>
> > > > To: "'L. James Prevo'" <president at prevo.net>; "ARIN Virtual Web
> > Hosting
> > > > (E-mail)" <vwp at arin.net>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:50 PM
> > > > Subject: WebHosting Policy- SSL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > That would be the technical justification you would provide to ARIN
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill Darte
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: L. James Prevo [mailto:president at prevo.net]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 1:13 PM
> > > > > > To: Bill Darte; ARIN Public Policy (E-mail); ARIN Virtual Web
> > Hosting
> > > > > > (E-mail); ARIN Clew (E-mail)
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Supporting ISPs with WebHosting Policy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ARIN subscription holders who provide virtual webhosting
> > > > > > > services to their
> > > > > > > > customers, and organizations that request new address space
> > > > > > > from ARIN, are
> > > > > > > > strongly encouraged to employ a name-based system of
> > > > > > webhosting -- a
> > > > > > > > current best practice method which enables multiple domains
> > > > > > > to be hosted
> > > > > > > > by a single IP address. In contrast, an IP-based system
> > requires
> > a
> > > > > > > > distinct IP number for each domain, which, where not
> > > > > > > required for the
> > > > > > > > technical basis of services offered, is an inefficient use
> > > > > > > of addresses.
> > > > > > > > Widespread use of the name-based system will significantly
> > > > > > > reduce the
> > > > > > > > number of addresses needed for webhosting and will help to
> > > > > > > conserve the
> > > > > > > > limited supply of available address space.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > POLICY
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When an ISP submits a request for IP address space to be
> > > > > > > used for IP-based
> > > > > > > > webhosting, they will supply technical justification for
> > > > > > > this practice. ARIN
> > > > > > > > will collect this data for review of the policy in light of
> > > > > > > operational
> > > > > > > > experience.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a server that has SSL (Secure Socket Layers) For a web site
> > > > > > to have its own SSL the server requires the domain name or site
> > > > > > to have its own IP #, which is how SSL works. What about sites
> > > > > > that have SSL and need their own IP #?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am a budget web host, a majority of my sites are all named
> > > > > > based. However I have sites that have thier own SSL and need
> > > > > > their own IP #.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How is ARIN going to handle this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is it being addressed?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > L. James Prevo
> > > > > > President
> > > > > > The Prevo Network
> > > > > > http://www.prevo.net
> > > > > > "The Place Where We Unlock Your Doors to the Net!"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Stephen Elliott Harrison & Troxell
> > > > > > > Systems & Networking Manager 2 Faneuil Hall Marketplace
> > > > > > > Systems & Networking Group Boston, Ma 02109
> > > > > > > (617)227-0494 Phone (617)720-3918 Fax
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ----- End of forwarded message from Neil H. -----
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________
> > Joe DeCosta
> > joe at decosta.org
> > ~Off to see the wonderful wizard of Oz!~
> > ~because of the wonderful things he does!~
> >
> >
> 