WebHosting Policy- SSL (fwd)

[Neil H.]

And for that reason alone it should be noted that IPV6 will never be seen.
The only way it could possibly work is to start with a new network from
scratch.

Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe DeCosta" <joe at decosta.org>
To: <vwp at arin.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: WebHosting Policy- SSL (fwd)


> I'm curious if you really understand the implications of "just get IPv6
> working and forget about all this really are.  EVERY router in the world,
> and ever workstation MUST be either upgraded or patched to work with both
> IPv4 and IPv6, and until they are all patched we can't begin to move over
> to IP6.  IP6 is too far away because of what will have to be done with
> every router etc......workstations and end users aren't going to be that
> hard, because it's either replace some files in the system folder (mac),
> update some DLL's (windows), or replace some libraries and madify the
> kernel (*nix), the client side is the easiet to convert, get all the
> routers done and we can do it, but until then, we have to just deal with
> it........
>
> ===================
>
> Yes Sir, we'll get right on it, Sir :)
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
> >Do you guys realize the amount of account required to do that? It would
> >make my zone huge and then to go back and delete it. Also my resellers
> >wouldn't like that. This would be a complete nightmare. Just get IPv6
> >working and forget about all this.
> >
> >Neil
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Hershey" <hershey at easystreet.com>
> To: "ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)" <vwp at arin.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:57 PM
> Subject: RE: WebHosting Policy- SSL
>
>
>
> >
> > One way is to use alternate hostnames in our a different domain (such as
> the
> > domain of the hosting provider, i.e. username.domain.com). This also
> allows
> > customers to access the site before it moves, and to access in the event
> > there are problems with their domain, such as it being placed 'On Hold'
> by
> > their registrar.
> > --
> >
> > -Chris Hershey
> > hershey at easystreet.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-vwp at arin.net [mailto:owner-vwp at arin.net]On Behalf Of Neil
> H.
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:50 AM
> > > To: ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)
> > > Subject: Re: WebHosting Policy- SSL
> > >
> > >
> > > For new accounts setup that use FrontPage extensions how would a user
> pre
> > > publish their site before the domain name resolved?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bill Darte" <billd at cait.wustl.edu>
> > > To: "'L. James Prevo'" <president at prevo.net>; "ARIN Virtual Web
> Hosting
> > > (E-mail)" <vwp at arin.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:50 PM
> > > Subject: WebHosting Policy- SSL
> > >
> > >
> > > > That would be the technical justification you would provide to ARIN
> > > >
> > > > Bill Darte
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: L. James Prevo [mailto:president at prevo.net]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 1:13 PM
> > > > > To: Bill Darte; ARIN Public Policy (E-mail); ARIN Virtual Web
> Hosting
> > > > > (E-mail); ARIN Clew (E-mail)
> > > > > Subject: Re: Supporting ISPs with WebHosting Policy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > ARIN subscription holders who provide virtual webhosting
> > > > > > services to their
> > > > > > > customers, and organizations that request new address space
> > > > > > from ARIN, are
> > > > > > > strongly encouraged to employ a name-based system of
> > > > > webhosting -- a
> > > > > > > current best practice method which enables multiple domains
> > > > > > to be hosted
> > > > > > > by a single IP address. In contrast, an IP-based system
> requires
> a
> > > > > > > distinct IP number for each domain, which, where not
> > > > > > required for the
> > > > > > > technical basis of services offered, is an inefficient use
> > > > > > of addresses.
> > > > > > > Widespread use of the name-based system will significantly
> > > > > > reduce the
> > > > > > > number of addresses needed for webhosting and will help to
> > > > > > conserve the
> > > > > > > limited supply of available address space.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > POLICY
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When an ISP submits a request for IP address space to be
> > > > > > used for IP-based
> > > > > > > webhosting, they will supply technical justification for
> > > > > > this practice. ARIN
> > > > > > > will collect this data for review of the policy in light of
> > > > > > operational
> > > > > > > experience.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a server that has SSL (Secure Socket Layers) For a web site
> > > > > to have its own SSL the server requires the domain name or site
> > > > > to have its own IP #, which is how SSL works. What about sites
> > > > > that have SSL and need their own IP #?
> > > > >
> > > > > I am a budget web host, a majority of my sites are all named
> > > > > based. However I have sites that have thier own SSL and need
> > > > > their own IP #.
> > > > >
> > > > > How is ARIN going to handle this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it being addressed?
> > > > >
> > > > > L. James Prevo
> > > > > President
> > > > > The Prevo Network
> > > > > http://www.prevo.net
> > > > > "The Place Where We Unlock Your Doors to the Net!"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Stephen Elliott Harrison & Troxell
> > > > > > Systems & Networking Manager 2 Faneuil Hall Marketplace
> > > > > > Systems & Networking Group Boston, Ma 02109
> > > > > > (617)227-0494 Phone (617)720-3918 Fax
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> ----- End of forwarded message from Neil H. -----
>
>
>
>
> ______________________
> Joe DeCosta
> joe at decosta.org
> ~Off to see the wonderful wizard of Oz!~
> ~because of the wonderful things he does!~
>
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