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<div class="">I’ll note that the language in the third option (Option C) is more neutral and
<div class="">reflective of simply having reviewed the proposal and aided its refinement, </div>
<div class="">whereas the Option A text states that the Services WG is “supportive” of </div>
<div class="">the proposal (and thus would potentially have the Services WG members </div>
<div class="">being asked why they support the proposed change.)</div>
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<div class="">Again, I am fine with any of the outcomes (timing-wise, I’d like to send the </div>
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<div class="">I kind of felt like that in our discussions, the role of the WG members was to simply advise; to give our thoughtful and considered opinions to the staff and Board. I don't feel like we need to formally recommend anything. We are here for you
- the staff and Board - as a technical sounding board. We ain't nobody. :)</div>
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On Jan 26, 2017, at 11:34 PM, John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" class="">jcurran@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">On 12 Sep 2016, at 10:05 AM, David R Huberman <<a href="mailto:daveid@panix.com" class="">daveid@panix.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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I have re-reviewed the CKN23 document, and in light of our call, here are my final thoughts:<br class="">
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1) I agree with Matt that hijackers are more normally going to use Whois to verify what they already know: that a block is abandoned and ripe for their misuse.<br class="">
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2) If, as reported by staff, ARIN is receiving 5-10 calls a week on this, that doesn't seem like a "problem" to me. Rather, it seems like CKN23-ARIN is working as intended. It's causing registrants to contact ARIN and, unwillingly or not, learn how to update
their registration information. I see this as highly valuable to the community -- more up-to-date contact information is good. If the registrant who contacts ARIN to complain does not ultimately update their information, then I can only assume it either wasn't
important enough of a problem to them to actually do anything about it, or perhaps they really shouldnt be listed :)<br class="">
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3) Formally, I support Option #1, the do nothing option. But I can support Option #3, reinstating old resource tech POCs back to the resource, but locking to prevent them from making rDNS changes without validation.</div>
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<div class="">Welcome to 2017, including formal resumption of our ARIN Services WG efforts! </div>
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<div class="">Based on the discussion within the Services WG (and some discussion in halls at </div>
<div class="">the October ARIN meeting) on the topic of CKN-23 cleanup, I am proposing that </div>
<div class="">the ARIN proceed with Option 3 (i.e. the restoration of the admin and tech resource </div>
<div class="">points-of-contact and locking the record.) (See attached email for a refresher if </div>
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<div class="">This change would provide legacy resource holders with entries which most closely </div>
<div class="">resemble that which was originally registered (rather than having only the oblique </div>
<div class="">“abuse POC” entry), yet does not significantly alter the steps necessary to make </div>
<div class="">changes to the number resource (i.e. parties must have access to the original email </div>
<div class="">or perform recovery to make substantial changes to their number resources.) </div>
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<div class="">I am now preparing a community consultation proposing this change (including the </div>
<div class="">supporting material that was reviewed by the Services WG), and will include one of</div>
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<div class=""> B) “The ARIN Services Working Group reviewed this proposed change and does not support</div>
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<div class=""> C) “I would like to thank the ARIN Services WG for their helpful review of the proposed </div>
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<div class=""> that the Services WG did not take formal position in support or opposition to the </div>
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<div class="">From the earlier discussion on the list, one could argue for any of the above outcomes; </div>
<div class="">I’d ask that the Services WG converge on one of the three outcomes listed above (and</div>
<div class="">I would be happy to coordinate with the Chair to schedule a teleconference if needed for</div>
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<div class="">Thank you!</div>
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<div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">[Services-wg]
ARIN Services WG - CKN23 materials for your consideration</b><br class="">
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Please find attached the “CKN23" project document and an overview slide deck<br class="">
of same, for your consideration. Leslie Nobile produced these and is available <br class="">
to brief the Services WG on the issue and potential options for moving forward.<br class="">
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It would be my desire the Services WG consider the matter and provide an initial <br class="">
recommendation on how to proceed. I would inform the ARIN community of this <br class="">
direction by putting the matter out for community consultation along with the SWG’s <br class="">
recommendation.<br class="">
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Please review the materials at your convenience, and we’ll arrange a teleconference<br class="">
in the near future to review jointly.<br class="">
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