Search Engines/IP restrictions/policy changes

[Torsey, Brian]

Most ISP's at this point use dynamically assigned IP addressing... each IP
address (just like a modem port) being used by the maximum the ISP can get
away with ( 10 customers per modem port is a workable standard)

That was one of the first "changes" ARIN made to how other people do
business. It created issues for some ISP's, but they either adapted... or
they were history.

As for the policy on IP addresses and Virtual Web hosting ... it did not
come out of the blue.

Most people I know saw it coming for about a year. It just went from
"strongly advised against" to "against policy".

I do agree that it would have been nice if ARIN had worked with the Search
Engine folks (Yahoo/Google/Lycos/Hotbot/Etc) to be ready for this change in
policy.

Any ARIN folks want to comment?

Brian Torsey


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark [mailto:maxiter at inetu.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 12:04 PM
To: Torsey, Brian
Cc: policy at arin.net
Subject: RE: Search Engines



Adaptation?  Has anybody considered having ISPs proxy all their dialup
customers?  That represents significant IP usage.

Web hosts are not the only type of organization which requires large
numbers of IPs.

FWIW, overall, I do support ARIN's IP restrictions, but I do not support
their instantaneous implementation of such policies.  Such changes to take
time, and it seems that time is not something which was taken into account
with this policy.

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On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Torsey, Brian wrote:

> 
> If this is true, then the search engine folks need to fix the problem that
> they are creating. (Yo, ARIN ... time to start talking with the search
> engine folks!!!!)
> 
> The policy is a good one. Its not perfect, and it will mean some issues
will
> have to be delt with.
> 
> If you wanted everything to be perfect and work as is out of the box ...
why
> would you want to be an Engineer?  :)
> 
> 
> Adapt/improve/enhance
> 
> Progress does not come without conflict.
> 
> 
> Brian Torsey
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Lee [mailto:Brian_Lee at interliant.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:07 AM
> To: policy at arin.net
> Subject: Search Engines
> 
> 
> A number of people have told us that name based hosting affect placement
on
> search engines.  They basically say that search engines does not recognize
> host headers.  Have you heard anything on this or do you know of any plans
> for search engines to comply with the new name based hosting policy?
> 
> Brian Lee
> Interliant Sales
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