FW: Long over due

[Jason Redisch]

Hello All,
	I am reposting this issue from the CLEW mailing list to the policy mailing
list as this appears to be more of a policy issue.  I think it is important
to try to hash out any sort of change to the transfer policy in an open
discussion forum such as this mailing list before the next meeting.

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Jason Redisch 		(w) 720-528-4368
Sr IP Engineer			(f) 720-528-4361
Virtela Communications



-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Redisch [mailto:jredisch at virtela.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 10:28 AM
To: Bill Darte; Clew Workgroup (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Long over due


Hello All,
	At some point before the next meeting I wanted to discuss the transfer
policy.  I don't know if this is the right forum or not, but since it is the
only active one.. .

	At the last meeting the fact that transfers have increased was brought up
and the whole transfer policy was to be revisited at the next meeting.

from the minutes:
"The number of organizational transfers have been increasing. Whether this
is due to organizations not having to justify space, or because the fee is
minimal, is not clear. Members were asked to be thinking about whether
ARIN's transfer policy should be changed. Statistics on the number of
transfers will be provided in the future."

I think it would make sense to discuss this either here or in the policy
working group.  I have some ideas about how we might be able to better
protect the community from 'unjustified' transfers and would really like to
hear others input on this topic.

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Jason Redisch 		(w) 720-528-4368
Sr IP Engineer			(f) 720-528-4361
Virtela Communications


-----Original Message-----
From: clew-request at arin.net [mailto:clew-request at arin.net]On Behalf Of
Bill Darte
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 7:19 AM
To: Clew Workgroup (E-mail)
Subject: Long over due


Clew members...

At the Calgary meeting many of spoke about the need to get the CLEW
workgroup established and working on substantive issues that members and the
industry need.....Education about ARIN, addressing, whatever....

I promised that when I got back I would prime the workgroup with a message.
A message that would elicit response to see if the mail server 'really
works' and to see if anyone would  'really respond'.... so here it is.....

Is anyone listening out there?

I propose that each of you identify one, just 1, topic that you think would
be of interest or is needed by the address providers or consumers....  I
would be willing to aggregate the list and prioritize the efforts toward
accomplishing the tasks on the list.

So, please send your topic and let's get started.

BTW....my topic is the creation of a two-day workshop that explains about
addressing history, the dilemmas of addressing and route tables, the need
for conservation, ARIN and it's agenda...ICANN and it's agenda....IPv6 and
it's agenda....etc.   This seminar would be taught by me and would travel to
whatever ISP arranged customer/industry gathering which requests it on a
first-come, first-served basis.  Local organizations would support the cost
of the local arrangements and seminar leaders travel..... the cost of the
leader would be supported by ARIN out of a Education fund, to be
established.  The actual leader would be an ARIN employee or some contract
educator like myself or others.

Bill Darte
ARIN AC member