Let us all bend over, apply the Vaseline...

[Jim Fleming]

On Wednesday, April 30, 1997 10:41 PM, David R. Conrad[SMTP:davidc at APNIC.NET] wrote:
@ Sigh.
@ 
@ Anyone have a script that would periodically resend each
@ message in the ARIN archives sequentially?   We could cycle
@ them about once every couple of months -- it appears to be
@ the frequency the same "discussions" keep coming up...
@ 
@ >Today it will be $2500, which I already consider ridiculously high.
@ 
@ OK, let's see your projected budget figures...
@ 
@ >Tomorrow what will it be? 
@ 
@ Well, if ARIN is modeled after RIPE and APNIC (it is), and RIPE has
@ already lowered its prices (APNIC is still stabilizing itself so we
@ haven't followed suit yet), I figure it is a safe assumption that ARIN
@ prices will be adjusted to whatever situation ARIN finds itself in.
@ 
@ >The idea of paying such a high recurring cost for IP space is absurd
@ >and only goes to justify a bloated $3M annual budget.
@ 
@ How else do you expect us to maintain our black helicopters?  Bloody
@ things are expensive, dontcha know...
@ 
@ Actually, I think it'd be fun if ARIN were to start the same way APNIC
@ did -- just think: NSI starts forwarding address requests to the one
@ or two people who replace NSI's current staff of a dozen or so people.
@ Requests processing times exponentiate, people threaten lawsuits, ISPs
@ lose customers, an eIAR clique is formed, net.politicians make long
@ speeches and get into "fascinating" flame wars, ITU decides it needs
@ to be involved, etc., etc., ad nauseam.
@ 
@ Just imagine the gigabytes of email that'll be generated!!  I froth
@ at the mouth in anticipation.
@ 
@ However, as fun as that might be, it may be _slightly_ more practical
@ for the team that current supports Internet addresss allocations to
@ organizations in the areas currently served by InterNIC to continue in
@ that function as ARIN is started up.  Also, since I believe the team
@ at NSI is supported by various people within NSI who won't be moving
@ to ARIN (software engineers, system admins, etc.), ARIN will need to
@ find some of those also.
@ 
@ Of course, I'm *sure* those folk will be more than happy to take
@ serious reductions in pay, after all, they're doing this for the "good
@ of the Internet" -- .30 cents per address per _year_ is OBVIOUSLY an
@ inconceivable burden.  My god, it means charging an additional US
@ $0.03 per month for dialup customers.  I can't imagine how ISPs in
@ Armenia, Bangladesh, China, ..., Zaire manage it.
@ 
@ >I'm not suggesting that the IP registery remain with NSI either. But knowing
@ >the potential for large organization to dominate a function like ARIN and
@ >use it to further ensure a controlling market position doesn't help
@ >me sleep well either.
@ 
@ Then take a sedative.  Or read the documents on ARIN's structure again
@ (probably the same effect... :-)).
@ 
@ Regards,
@ -drc
@ 
@ 

Who are the people behind ARIN ?

Who will be working at ARIN ?

Will they also keep their jobs (and stock) at NSI ?

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Jim Fleming
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