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[Gordon Cook]

To those old hands here who manage to filter out flemings slanderous
stench!  Congratulations.

To anyone new who may be wondering about flemings malodourous SLIME.  He
is an inveterate liar who reeks with the stench of a 3 day old dead fish.
best ignored....which means i am not following my own advice.....sigh.

Fleming you asshole.... you have one lie after another in your little
history..... get lost beyond your stargate.  but if i had the means and
the time to invest..... 
i'd hire a
lawyer 
and 
serve 
you 
with 
papers.

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On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Jim Fleming wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 08, 1997 6:02 PM, Gordon Cook[SMTP:cook at netaxs.com] wrote:
> @ Eric sez:
> @ I strongly object to the way ARIN's board
> @ is annointed.  It is not chosen by the members but by NSI.  That
> @ annointed board then appoints the advisory council from which new BoT
> @ members will come in the future.
> @ 
> @ >From what i know....or at least think I know....the ARIN board was most
> @ definitely NOT chosen by NSI.  Why do you think it was?  because telage
> @ the NSI president is on it?
> @ 
> 
> Don Telage is no longer the President of NSI.
> Gabe Batistta runs the show...since November 1996.
> Don Telage is V.P. of Special Projects (or something similar)
> 
> @ Telage is an honorable man but unfortunately in my opinion, he does not 
> @ "grok" the internet.  I do think the arin board would have a better
> @ composition with justin newton or ken leland there in place of telage.
> @ nevertheless Telage is spending a million dollars to cut arin loose
> @ so I guess they figured it would be impolite to keep him off.
> @ Still if he had stayed off it would have had a positive impact on NSIs
> @ image in my opinion.
> @ 
> 
> Don Telage wrote the NSI plan in response to the IAHC.
> It is hard to imagine that he does not "grok" the Internet.
> 
> It is my impression that after Don cashes out on the NSI
> IPO (along with other NSI people) then he and some others
> will run ARIN. Don was the President of NSI when the NSF
> was convinced to allow NSI to start charging for domain
> registrations. What better person to lead the charge in
> charging for IP addresses ? (no punn intended)
> 
> NSI has already started to divide the people and space.
> It will be interesting to see where the Root Name Servers
> end up in the shuffle. They are really part of the InterNIC
> which is more Don Telage's domain.
> 
> The Domain Registration part of NSI (i.e. .COM, .NET and
> .ORG) can now go off at arm's length with their own TLD
> Name Servers separate from the Root Name Servers and
> not look back. As long as delegations are added to a new
> set of .COM servers, NSI will be clear of the InterNIC.
> That appears to be the image that has been projected for
> a long time at <http://www.netsol.com>.
> 
> Don Telage and the IP address people can ride out what
> remains of the InterNIC and evolve it to ARIN. As noted in
> the following, other parts of the InterNIC are being dismantled
> and funded by the NSF.
> 
> 
> ======
> 
> The "original" InterNIC was supposed to have three
> functions, IS, DS, and RS. Part of the IS function was
> PR and education. Part of that function was Net Scout
> and other activities.
> 
> When the NSF mismanaged the IS function and did not
> replace the contractor, Network Solutions, Inc. (the RS
> contractor moved in an picked up some of the IS tasks)
> 
> Now it appears that the NSF is slowly dismantling the
> InterNIC but continuing to fund the activities. This allows
> NSI to exit from the contract without supporting these
> activities.
> 
> People claim the NSF is no longer funding the InterNIC.
> Here is another $3 million that is essentially funding what
> used to be part of the InterNIC.
> 
> P.S. Don Mitchell the Program Manager below was the
> InterNIC Program Manager. Larry Landweber helped found the
> ISOC.
> 
> 
> ======
> 
> 
> @@@@@ http://www.nsf.gov/cgi-bin/showaward?award=9712163
> 
> NSF Award Abstract - #9712163
> 
> Net Scout Internet Resource Discovery and Search Technologies
> 
> NSF Org NCR
> Latest Amendment Date May 15, 1997
> Award Number 9712163
> Award Instr.Continuing Grant
> Prgm Manager Donald Mitchell
> NCR DIV OF NETWORKING & COMMU RES & INFRASTR
> CSE DIRECT FOR COMPUTER & INFO SCIE & ENGINR
> Start Date May 1, 1997
> Expires April 30, 2000 (Estimated)
> Expected Total Amt. $3,074,016 (Estimated)
> Investigator Lawrence H Landweber ihl at cs.wisc.edu
> Susan Calcari
> Sponsor U of Wisconsin Madison
> 750 University Ave
> Madison, WI 537061490 608/262-1234
> NSF Program 4090 NSFNETFld Applictn0206000 Telecommunications
> 
> Abstract
> 
> The Net Scout project is an Internet resource location and technology
> service oriented primarily to the higher education community. It currently
> provides four services that are used by thousands of faculty, staff, and
> students in higher education: the Scout Report, Net Happenings, the
> Scout Toolkit, and the KIDS Report. The Scout Report is a weekly
> electronic newsletter summarizing the best new Internet resources of
> use to higher education. Net Happenings is an electronic service that
> provides immediate notification of 50-70 Internet announcements each
> day via a mailing list, a newsgroup, and a Web site. The Scout Toolkit
> summarizes the best Internet search services and other tools needed
> by researchers and educators to use the Internet effectively. The KIDS
> Report is a biweekly newsletter written by students in elementary, middle,
> and high school classrooms who select and describe the Web sites
> they find the most interesting and useful. The Net Scout project will
> continue and expand these services in two ways: First, to provide
> additional services, including publication of three biweekly Scout Reports
> produced by specialists in the specific areas of Science and Engineering,
> Social Sciences, and Business and Economics, and, second, to implement
> new tools which aid in the location of Internet resources in a specific
> subject area. A prototype service will be built using as its initial base
> the three year archive of the highly selective resources that have been
> included in the Scout Report. Specialized authenticated collections
> of quality resources at higher education institutions will also be
> identified and included in the prototype. http://wwwscout.cs.wisc.edu/ 
> 
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> --
> Jim Fleming
> Unir Corporation
>