Scaling ARIN proposal for small ISPs - and economic reality
James Smallacombe
james at pil.net
Wed Jan 22 10:16:57 EST 1997
>-- [ From: David Hakala * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
>
>> Your analysis has a few fundamental flaws.
>
>A "few?" Egad, I must have been inadvertently sober. :)
>
>> 1. Most startup ISP's will never deal with the Internic directly. They
>will
>> get their addresses from their upstream providers and only see the trickle
>down
>
>I keep hearing this, and I keep asking what sense it makes for me to buy my
>most vital resource from my competitors. Just because this is how it *has*
>been doesn't mean it should continue to be so. If ARIN charges fees based on
>individual IP addresses, it could become the truly neutral party in this
>scenario.
You get the address space from where ever you get your connection, be it
a competitor. It's known as "aggregation", and everyone on this list that's
an ISP knows why it's neccessary. If you don't, then I assume you're here
to learn, in which case you should lurk more and post less.
>> 3. The prices are skewed so that it is much more likely that the Mom &
>Pop ISP
>> will want to get the better prices and go with their upstream provider to
>keep
>> block asssignments routing entries minimized.
>
>I don't get it - how are the prices my upstream provider charges guaranteed
>to be lower than those that ARIN charges?
They're not. Just like the price your upstream provider charges for your
Internet connection is not fixed or guaranteed. Ever hear of "competition"?
>--
>David Hakala
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