<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Richard Hill <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch" target="_blank">rhill@hill-a.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Seun,</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Re
footnote [1], there is at present an MoU between ITU and the NRO, see
</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">
<a href="http://archive.icann.org/en/aso/aso-mou-29oct04.htm" target="_blank">http://archive.icann.org/en/aso/aso-mou-29oct04.htm</a> </font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">I
presume that you are not suggesting that this MoU be abrogated,</font></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am definitely not suggesting that......<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"> rather you are
suggesting that nothing more is needed.</font></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am rather suggesting that the MOU be reviewed in a manner that allows the numbers community have ultimate decision when there is need to exercise it. The area that especially needs review includes the GPDP (item 5).<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">If
that is correct, then I don't agree. As already indicated, I think that
more is needed. But I do agree that it could be done by the NRO (but that
would imply that NRO would have to be incorproated as a legal
entity).</font></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well the council proposed also has to be incorporated and that is why i indicated that the NRO-EC formation/composition may need to change. However i don't think all these will be necessarily if there is a single incorporated entity that empowers the relevant communities (names, numbers, and protocol) and i just think the IETF may be in the best position for this.[1]<br><br></div><div>Regards<br></div><div>1. I have been saying this for some time and yet to hear any opposition to this.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Best,</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Richard</font></span></div><div><div class="h5">
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Seun Ojedeji
[mailto:<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>]<br><b>Sent:</b> mercredi, 29. octobre 2014
20:56<br><b>To:</b> Richard Hill<br><b>Cc:</b> Andrew Dul;
iana-transition<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Iana-transition] lanic update, ideas
for new oversight board (MONC)<br><br></font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Richard Hill <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch" target="_blank">rhill@hill-a.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<div>NTIA awards the IANA contract, that is, it decides who performs the
IANA function, and how. <br><br>Presumably the MONC would do that (for the
IP address part of the IANA function) instead of NTIA.<br></div></blockquote>
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<div>Thanks for echoing that fact. We then need to determine whether its worth
forming a council that will only be awarding a periodic contract. IMO if this
community decide that a contracting regime is what is desired[1] then that
role can be given to the NRO while the composition of NRO-EC is
reviewed.<br></div>
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<div><br>But you are right to ask for a more detailed explanation: the devil
is in the details. <br></div></blockquote>
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<div>;) <br><br></div>
<div>Cheers!<br></div>
<div>1. Which i don't necessarily think is necessary<br></div>
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<div><br>Best Richard
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<div class="gmail_quote">On October 29, 2014 6:30:17 PM CET, Seun Ojedeji
<<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
<blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<p dir="ltr">Maybe it's helpful to know what oversight activities is
performed by NTIA at it relates to numbers(if any). That would perhaps
help understand the scope of work of the MONC. Then the other question of
what will the role of NRO look like and what's the formation of the MONC
going to look like.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Cheers!</p>
<p dir="ltr">sent from Google nexus 4<br>kindly excuse brevity and
typos.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 29 Oct 2014 16:40, "Andrew Dul" <<a href="mailto:andrew.dul@quark.net" target="_blank">andrew.dul@quark.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
<blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hello<br><br>I am currently at the LACNIC meeting and
we just had the discussion of ideas & proposals surrounding the IANA
transition. A new set of ideas has been presented here for
discussion in this region. The idea of a new oversight board
(MONC) to perform the NTIA oversight function.<br><br>I bring it up here
so that you can be aware of it and so that we can discuss the idea in
our region as well.<br><br>Below are links to the slides and agenda
which are in spanish.<br><br>A few personal notes from the presentation
and the discussion.<br><br>Proposal for a Multistakeholder Oversight
Numbers Council (MONC)<br><br>Permanent body that would support the NRO,
would meet once per year to supervise the development & oversight of
IANA functions, similar to the sitting fiscal committee of
lacnic.<br><br>It was suggested that oversight role should be done by
this body for the numbers portion of the IANA functions. Members
of the Council would have to be selected or appointed to fulfill this
role. How that would happen is not part of this initial idea
draft.<br><br>One thing that was noted here is that this is a new idea
and that it should be given time for discussion to see if it has
merits. There aren't a lot of details on the structure here at
this time, but they should come with time.<br><br>Andrew<br><br><br><a href="http://www.lacnic.net/en/web/eventos/lacnic22-agenda-detallada" target="_blank">http://www.lacnic.net/en/web/<u></u>eventos/lacnic22-agenda-<u></u>detallada</a><br><br><a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/HBIR5OaMLUQIPZlmgHtCeLpQG4WO9cUjB83vUDPqMtNPuhGbNSNlJ2aVvUpiNdQM?dl=1" target="_blank">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.<u></u>com/content_link/<u></u>HBIR5OaMLUQIPZlmgHtCeLpQG4WO9c<u></u>UjB83vUDPqMtNPuhGbNSNlJ2aVvUpi<u></u>NdQM?dl=1</a><br><br><br><br><br><br>______________________________<u></u>_________________<br>Iana-transition
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