ARIN Conversion: Template Instructions Now Available (fwd)

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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:07:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lee Howard <lee.howard at wcom.com>
To: Dawn Martin <dawn.martin at wcom.com>
Cc: 'ginny listman' <ginny at arin.net>, dbwg at arin.net
Subject: RE: ARIN Conversion: Template Instructions Now Available

> Entity     POCs Displayed
> ======     ==============
>  org       All organization POCs including Admin, Tech, NOC and Abuse
> resouce    All resource POCs and all organization POCs BUT Admin


Speaking as the Administrative contact for WorldCom, I don't want my
name and contact information appearing in WHOIS.  I already get a
couple of abuse/security/spam/hacker compaints a day because my name
appears on some route objects in the RADB.  I ask the community for
its sympathy--can anyone imagine being the lone human whose name shows
up for all UUNET records?

I also don't want all Tech POCs to appear.  We have hundreds of people
who could allocate and SWIP; I don't want somebody to be able to see the
name of every UUNET engineer just by doing a WHOIS.  The bait is too
strong for recruiters or social engineering hacks.

Any legitimate use of WHOIS can be directed to a NOC, Help or Abuse role
account, which we staff 24x7.  I personally am not responsive 24x7.  If
other organizations do not have such role accounts, they are welcome to
list individuals as their NOC or Abuse contacts.

That's my opinion as a potential Admin contact, and the manager of a
large group of potential Tech contacts.

Lee



On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Dawn Martin wrote:

> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:06 -0400
> From: Dawn Martin <dawn.martin at wcom.com>
> To: 'ginny listman' <ginny at arin.net>
> Cc: dbwg at arin.net
> Subject: RE: ARIN Conversion: Template Instructions Now Available
>
> Thanks Ginny, for #1 the URL is:
> http://www.arin.net/library/training/2002_templates/index.html# for the
> resource Tech POC.
>
> Everyone else,
>
> (OK anyone else) doesn't anyone have anything to say about your
> name being put in WHOIS with ALL of your records??? I can only say
> for me that I don't want my name to show up.
>
> Anyone...
>
> Bueller...
>
> Bueller...
>
>
> Dawn Martin
> WorldCom IP Planning & Policy Analyst
> dawn.martin at wcom.com
> (703)886-4746
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ginny listman [mailto:ginny at arin.net]
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:40 AM
> To: Dawn Martin
> Cc: dbwg at arin.net
> Subject: RE: ARIN Conversion: Template Instructions Now Available
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Dawn Martin wrote:
>
> > I have a couple of questions:
> >
> > 1)Can a Resource Tech POC complete ALL aspects of SWIPing? In the
> tutorial,
> > it only says that
> >   they can do allocations?
>
> Yes, a Resource Tech can complete all aspects of SWIPing. In which
> tutorial does it say they can only allocate?
>
> >
> > 2)Was it ever figured out exactly what contacts were going to be published
> > in WHOIS?
>
> No. Although there was concern expressed at the April 2002 Member Meeting
> regarding publishing the Administrative and/or Technical contacts, it
> needs to be discussed further on the list. I posted information regarding
> the Administrative contact
>      http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/dbwg/0256.html
>
> There was only one response. I believe that once we release the new WHOIS
> and people have the opportunity to see and review what is displayed, this
> topic will resurface. For now the new WHOIS will display the following:
>
> Entity     POCs Displayed
> ======     ==============
>  org       All organization POCs including Admin, Tech, NOC and Abuse
> resouce    All resource POCs and all organization POCs BUT Admin
>
> >
> > 3)In the replies from the new templates is ARIN going to completely change
> > the subject line? It
> >   would be nice if they could just add their ticket number and nothing
> else.
> >
>
> It is our intention to only append the ticket number to the subject line,
> and nothing else.
>
> >
> > Dawn Martin
> > WorldCom
> >
>
> Ginny Listman
> Director of Engineering
> ARIN
>